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From: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: "benbjiang(蒋彪)" <benbjiang@tencent.com>,
	"Jiang Biao" <benbjiang@gmail.com>,
	"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"peterz@infradead.org" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"juri.lelli@redhat.com" <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	"rostedt@goodmis.org" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"bsegall@google.com" <bsegall@google.com>,
	"mgorman@suse.de" <mgorman@suse.de>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/fair: reduce preemption with IDLE tasks runable(Internet mail)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 13:55:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bb7456af-6a4d-874c-e635-8d21e1ab3efc@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKfTPtATf94n4t6EnB5_76ygox26xd9EwvEHiv5cGN=E9BdLgg@mail.gmail.com>

On 19/08/2020 13:05, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 at 12:46, Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 17/08/2020 14:05, benbjiang(蒋彪) wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Aug 17, 2020, at 4:57 PM, Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 14/08/2020 01:55, benbjiang(蒋彪) wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Aug 13, 2020, at 2:39 AM, Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/08/2020 05:19, benbjiang(蒋彪) wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Aug 11, 2020, at 11:54 PM, Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/08/2020 02:41, benbjiang(蒋彪) wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 10, 2020, at 9:24 PM, Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 06/08/2020 17:52, benbjiang(蒋彪) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 6, 2020, at 9:29 PM, Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 03/08/2020 13:26, benbjiang(蒋彪) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 2020, at 4:16 PM, Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 01/08/2020 04:32, Jiang Biao wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Jiang Biao <benbjiang@tencent.com>
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>>> Are you sure about this?
>>> Yes. :)
>>>>
>>>> The math is telling me for the:
>>>>
>>>> idle task:      (3 / (1024 + 1024 + 3))^(-1) * 4ms = 2735ms
>>>>
>>>> normal task: (1024 / (1024 + 1024 + 3))^(-1) * 4ms =    8ms
>>>>
>>>> (4ms - 250 Hz)
>>> My tick is 1ms - 1000HZ, which seems reasonable for 600ms? :)
>>
>> OK, I see.
>>
>> But here the different sched slices (check_preempt_tick()->
>> sched_slice()) between normal tasks and the idle task play a role to.
>>
>> Normal tasks get ~3ms whereas the idle task gets <0.01ms.
> 
> In fact that depends on the number of CPUs on the system
> :sysctl_sched_latency = 6ms * (1 + ilog(ncpus)) . On a 8 cores system,
> normal task will run around 12ms in one shoot and the idle task still
> one tick period

True. This is on a single CPU.

> Also, you can increase even more the period between 2 runs of idle
> task by using cgroups and min shares value : 2

Ah yes, maybe this is what Jiang wants to do then? If his runtime does
not have other requirements preventing this.

[...]

  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-19 11:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-01  2:32 [PATCH] sched/fair: reduce preemption with IDLE tasks runable Jiang Biao
2020-08-03  8:16 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-08-03 11:26   ` [PATCH] sched/fair: reduce preemption with IDLE tasks runable(Internet mail) benbjiang(蒋彪)
2020-08-06 13:29     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-08-06 15:52       ` benbjiang(蒋彪)
2020-08-10 13:24         ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-08-11  0:41           ` benbjiang(蒋彪)
2020-08-11 15:54             ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-08-12  3:19               ` benbjiang(蒋彪)
2020-08-12 18:39                 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-08-13 23:55                   ` benbjiang(蒋彪)
2020-08-17  8:57                     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-08-17 12:05                       ` benbjiang(蒋彪)
2020-08-19 10:46                         ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-08-19 11:05                           ` Vincent Guittot
2020-08-19 11:55                             ` Dietmar Eggemann [this message]
2020-08-19 14:27                               ` benbjiang(蒋彪)
2020-08-19 14:55                                 ` Vincent Guittot
2020-08-20  0:13                                   ` benbjiang(蒋彪)
2020-08-20  7:35                                     ` Vincent Guittot
2020-08-20 11:27                                       ` benbjiang(蒋彪)
2020-08-20 12:45                                         ` Vincent Guittot
2020-08-20 14:28                                           ` Jiang Biao
2020-08-20 14:36                                             ` Vincent Guittot
2020-08-21  0:14                                               ` Jiang Biao
2020-08-19 14:10                           ` benbjiang(蒋彪)

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