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From: Nikolay Borisov <nik.borisov@suse.com>
To: Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>
Cc: x86@kernel.org, David Kaplan <david.kaplan@amd.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>,
	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	Asit Mallick <asit.k.mallick@intel.com>,
	Tao Zhang <tao1.zhang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 09/11] x86/vmscape: Deploy BHB clearing mitigation
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2025 20:53:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7d136f5b-437d-48ce-852d-cc793df4de15@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251121184148.hi6ye2trohwjm3oe@desk>



On 11/21/25 20:41, Pawan Gupta wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 21, 2025 at 04:23:56PM +0200, Nikolay Borisov wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 11/20/25 08:19, Pawan Gupta wrote:
>>> IBPB mitigation for VMSCAPE is an overkill on CPUs that are only affected
>>> by the BHI variant of VMSCAPE. On such CPUs, eIBRS already provides
>>> indirect branch isolation between guest and host userspace. However, branch
>>> history from guest may also influence the indirect branches in host
>>> userspace.
>>>
>>> To mitigate the BHI aspect, use clear_bhb_loop().
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>
>>> ---
>>>    Documentation/admin-guide/hw-vuln/vmscape.rst |  4 ++++
>>>    arch/x86/include/asm/nospec-branch.h          |  2 ++
>>>    arch/x86/kernel/cpu/bugs.c                    | 30 ++++++++++++++++++++-------
>>>    3 files changed, 29 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/hw-vuln/vmscape.rst b/Documentation/admin-guide/hw-vuln/vmscape.rst
>>> index d9b9a2b6c114c05a7325e5f3c9d42129339b870b..dc63a0bac03d43d1e295de0791dd6497d101f986 100644
>>> --- a/Documentation/admin-guide/hw-vuln/vmscape.rst
>>> +++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/hw-vuln/vmscape.rst
>>> @@ -86,6 +86,10 @@ The possible values in this file are:
>>>       run a potentially malicious guest and issues an IBPB before the first
>>>       exit to userspace after VM-exit.
>>> + * 'Mitigation: Clear BHB before exit to userspace':
>>> +
>>> +   As above, conditional BHB clearing mitigation is enabled.
>>> +
>>>     * 'Mitigation: IBPB on VMEXIT':
>>>       IBPB is issued on every VM-exit. This occurs when other mitigations like
>>> diff --git a/arch/x86/include/asm/nospec-branch.h b/arch/x86/include/asm/nospec-branch.h
>>> index 15a2fa8f2f48a066e102263513eff9537ac1d25f..1e8c26c37dbed4256b35101fb41c0e1eb6ef9272 100644
>>> --- a/arch/x86/include/asm/nospec-branch.h
>>> +++ b/arch/x86/include/asm/nospec-branch.h
>>> @@ -388,6 +388,8 @@ extern void write_ibpb(void);
>>>    #ifdef CONFIG_X86_64
>>>    extern void clear_bhb_loop(void);
>>> +#else
>>> +static inline void clear_bhb_loop(void) {}
>>>    #endif
>>>    extern void (*x86_return_thunk)(void);
>>> diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/bugs.c b/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/bugs.c
>>> index cbb3341b9a19f835738eda7226323d88b7e41e52..d12c07ccf59479ecf590935607394492c988b2ff 100644
>>> --- a/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/bugs.c
>>> +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/bugs.c
>>> @@ -109,9 +109,8 @@ DEFINE_PER_CPU(u64, x86_spec_ctrl_current);
>>>    EXPORT_PER_CPU_SYMBOL_GPL(x86_spec_ctrl_current);
>>>    /*
>>> - * Set when the CPU has run a potentially malicious guest. An IBPB will
>>> - * be needed to before running userspace. That IBPB will flush the branch
>>> - * predictor content.
>>> + * Set when the CPU has run a potentially malicious guest. Indicates that a
>>> + * branch predictor flush is needed before running userspace.
>>>     */
>>>    DEFINE_PER_CPU(bool, x86_predictor_flush_exit_to_user);
>>>    EXPORT_PER_CPU_SYMBOL_GPL(x86_predictor_flush_exit_to_user);
>>> @@ -3200,13 +3199,15 @@ enum vmscape_mitigations {
>>>    	VMSCAPE_MITIGATION_AUTO,
>>>    	VMSCAPE_MITIGATION_IBPB_EXIT_TO_USER,
>>>    	VMSCAPE_MITIGATION_IBPB_ON_VMEXIT,
>>> +	VMSCAPE_MITIGATION_BHB_CLEAR_EXIT_TO_USER,
>>>    };
>>>    static const char * const vmscape_strings[] = {
>>> -	[VMSCAPE_MITIGATION_NONE]		= "Vulnerable",
>>> +	[VMSCAPE_MITIGATION_NONE]			= "Vulnerable",
>>>    	/* [VMSCAPE_MITIGATION_AUTO] */
>>> -	[VMSCAPE_MITIGATION_IBPB_EXIT_TO_USER]	= "Mitigation: IBPB before exit to userspace",
>>> -	[VMSCAPE_MITIGATION_IBPB_ON_VMEXIT]	= "Mitigation: IBPB on VMEXIT",
>>> +	[VMSCAPE_MITIGATION_IBPB_EXIT_TO_USER]		= "Mitigation: IBPB before exit to userspace",
>>> +	[VMSCAPE_MITIGATION_IBPB_ON_VMEXIT]		= "Mitigation: IBPB on VMEXIT",
>>> +	[VMSCAPE_MITIGATION_BHB_CLEAR_EXIT_TO_USER]	= "Mitigation: Clear BHB before exit to userspace",
>>>    };
>>>    static enum vmscape_mitigations vmscape_mitigation __ro_after_init =
>>> @@ -3253,8 +3254,19 @@ static void __init vmscape_select_mitigation(void)
>>>    			vmscape_mitigation = VMSCAPE_MITIGATION_NONE;
>>>    		break;
>>> +	case VMSCAPE_MITIGATION_BHB_CLEAR_EXIT_TO_USER:
>>> +		if (!boot_cpu_has(X86_FEATURE_BHI_CTRL))
>>> +			vmscape_mitigation = VMSCAPE_MITIGATION_NONE;
>>> +		break;
>>
>> Am I missing something or this case can never execute because
>> VMSCAPE_MITIGATION_BHB_CLEAR_EXIT_TO_USER is only ever set if mitigation is
>> VMSCAPE_MITIGATION_AUTO in the below branch? Perhaps just remove it? This
>> just shows how confusing the logic for choosing the mitigations has
>> become....
> 
> The goal was not make any assumptions on what vmscape_parse_cmdline() can
> and cannot set. If you feel strongly about it, I can remove this case.

 From where I'm standing bugs.c is already rather hairy even after 
multiple rounds of cleanups and brushups, if we can remove code - I'll 
be up for it. At the very least  in the commit message you can 
explicitly mention that you handle every case on-principle, and you 
expect that some of it is dead code. Still, I think the best code is the 
one which doesn't exist  and you won't have to worry about it.

<snip>


  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-21 18:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-20  6:17 [PATCH v4 00/11] VMSCAPE optimization for BHI variant Pawan Gupta
2025-11-20  6:17 ` [PATCH v4 01/11] x86/bhi: x86/vmscape: Move LFENCE out of clear_bhb_loop() Pawan Gupta
2025-11-20 16:15   ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-11-20 16:56     ` Pawan Gupta
2025-11-20 16:58       ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-11-20  6:18 ` [PATCH v4 02/11] x86/bhi: Move the BHB sequence to a macro for reuse Pawan Gupta
2025-11-20 16:28   ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-11-20 16:57     ` Pawan Gupta
2025-11-25  0:21   ` Pawan Gupta
2025-11-20  6:18 ` [PATCH v4 03/11] x86/bhi: Make the depth of BHB-clearing configurable Pawan Gupta
2025-11-20 17:02   ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-11-20  6:18 ` [PATCH v4 04/11] x86/bhi: Make clear_bhb_loop() effective on newer CPUs Pawan Gupta
2025-11-21 12:33   ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-11-21 16:40   ` Dave Hansen
2025-11-21 16:45     ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-11-21 16:50       ` Dave Hansen
2025-11-21 18:16         ` Pawan Gupta
2025-11-21 18:42           ` Dave Hansen
2025-11-21 21:26             ` Pawan Gupta
2025-11-21 21:36               ` Dave Hansen
2025-11-24 19:21                 ` Pawan Gupta
2025-11-22 11:05               ` david laight
2025-11-24 19:31                 ` Pawan Gupta
2025-11-25 11:34                   ` david laight
2025-12-04  1:40                     ` Pawan Gupta
2025-12-04  9:15                       ` david laight
2025-12-04 21:56                         ` Pawan Gupta
2025-12-05  9:21                           ` david laight
2025-11-26 19:23     ` Pawan Gupta
2026-03-06 21:00   ` Jim Mattson
2026-03-06 22:32     ` Pawan Gupta
2026-03-06 22:57       ` Jim Mattson
2026-03-06 23:29         ` Pawan Gupta
2026-03-07  0:35           ` Jim Mattson
2026-03-07  1:00             ` Pawan Gupta
2026-03-07  1:10               ` Jim Mattson
2026-03-07  2:41                 ` Pawan Gupta
2026-03-07  5:05                   ` Jim Mattson
2026-03-09 22:29                     ` Pawan Gupta
2026-03-09 23:05                       ` Jim Mattson
2026-03-10  0:00                         ` Pawan Gupta
2026-03-10  0:08                           ` Jim Mattson
2026-03-10  0:52                             ` Pawan Gupta
2025-11-20  6:18 ` [PATCH v4 05/11] x86/vmscape: Rename x86_ibpb_exit_to_user to x86_predictor_flush_exit_to_user Pawan Gupta
2025-11-20  6:19 ` [PATCH v4 06/11] x86/vmscape: Move mitigation selection to a switch() Pawan Gupta
2025-11-21 14:27   ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-11-24 23:09     ` Pawan Gupta
2025-11-25 10:19       ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-11-25 17:45         ` Pawan Gupta
2025-11-20  6:19 ` [PATCH v4 07/11] x86/vmscape: Use write_ibpb() instead of indirect_branch_prediction_barrier() Pawan Gupta
2025-11-21 12:59   ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-11-20  6:19 ` [PATCH v4 08/11] x86/vmscape: Use static_call() for predictor flush Pawan Gupta
2025-11-20  6:19 ` [PATCH v4 09/11] x86/vmscape: Deploy BHB clearing mitigation Pawan Gupta
2025-11-21 14:18   ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-11-21 18:29     ` Pawan Gupta
2025-11-21 14:23   ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-11-21 18:41     ` Pawan Gupta
2025-11-21 18:53       ` Nikolay Borisov [this message]
2025-11-21 21:29         ` Pawan Gupta
2025-11-20  6:20 ` [PATCH v4 10/11] x86/vmscape: Override conflicting attack-vector controls with =force Pawan Gupta
2025-11-21 18:04   ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-11-20  6:20 ` [PATCH v4 11/11] x86/vmscape: Add cmdline vmscape=on to override attack vector controls Pawan Gupta
2025-11-25 11:41   ` Nikolay Borisov

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