From: Brian May <bam@snoopy.apana.org.au>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN
Date: 27 Jan 2001 15:59:25 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <84zogdtwsy.fsf@snoopy.apana.org.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0101250041440.1498-100000@srv2.ecropolis.com> <14960.56461.296642.488513@pizda.ninka.net> <3A70DDC4.6D1DB1EC@transmeta.com> <3A713B3F.24AC9C35@idb.hist.no> <94tho8$627$1@abraham.cs.berkeley.edu>
In-Reply-To: daw@mozart.cs.berkeley.edu's message of "27 Jan 01 04:10:48 GMT"
>>>>> "David" == David Wagner <daw@mozart.cs.berkeley.edu> writes:
David> Practice being really, really paranoid. Think: You're
David> designing a firewall; you've got some reserved bits,
David> currently unused; any future code that uses them could
David> behave in completely arbitrary and insecure ways, for all
David> you know. Now recall that anything not known to be safe
David> should be denied (in a good firewall) -- see Cheswick and
David> Bellovin for why. When you take this point of view, it is
David> completely understandable why firewalls designed before ECN
David> was introduced might block it.
In which case, people who use these firewall products need to realize
that future developments may break these assumptions, and that the
firewall software needs to be updated/reconfigured as a result.
--
Brian May <bam@snoopy.apana.org.au>
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Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-01-25 5:43 Jeremy Hansen
2001-01-25 7:37 ` Juri Haberland
2001-01-25 9:06 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-25 23:31 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-01-26 1:12 ` Lincoln Dale
2001-01-26 1:30 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-26 1:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-01-26 1:43 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-26 1:49 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-01-27 10:00 ` Rogier Wolff
2001-01-31 10:46 ` Alan Cox
2001-01-26 2:10 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-26 2:15 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-01-26 8:54 ` Helge Hafting
2001-01-26 18:04 ` Rick Jones
2001-01-27 7:11 ` Rusty Russell
2001-01-31 10:56 ` Alan Cox
2001-01-27 4:10 ` David Wagner
2001-01-27 4:59 ` Brian May [this message]
2001-01-27 18:18 ` Frank v Waveren
2001-01-27 19:20 ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-01-27 19:22 ` Frank v Waveren
2001-01-27 19:58 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-27 20:14 ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-01-27 22:18 ` David Schwartz
2001-01-27 23:09 ` James Sutherland
2001-01-28 0:11 ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-01-28 1:10 ` Dominik Kubla
2001-01-28 4:35 ` [OT] " Gregory Maxwell
2001-01-28 12:57 ` Dominik Kubla
2001-01-28 15:45 ` Michael H. Warfield
2001-01-28 19:30 ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-01-28 22:16 ` Dominik Kubla
2001-01-28 8:48 ` James Sutherland
2001-01-28 0:06 ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-01-28 3:27 ` David Schwartz
2001-01-28 0:58 ` David Lang
2001-01-26 2:24 ` Johannes Erdfelt
2001-01-26 3:03 ` Brian May
2001-01-26 5:06 ` Jeremy M. Dolan
2001-01-26 14:04 ` Florian Weimer
2001-01-26 10:37 ` Matti Aarnio
2001-01-26 11:32 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-26 11:40 ` James Sutherland
2001-01-26 11:44 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2001-01-26 13:44 ` James Sutherland
2001-01-26 14:44 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2001-01-26 15:03 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-26 15:16 ` Dominik Kubla
2001-01-26 15:27 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-26 22:26 ` Dominik Kubla
2001-01-26 22:30 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-01-26 15:35 ` Marian Jancar
2001-01-26 16:28 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-01-28 1:59 ` Dax Kelson
2001-01-28 16:51 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-26 15:14 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-26 15:24 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-26 17:05 ` ECN Simon Kirby
2001-01-26 18:12 ` ECN Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-26 23:47 ` ECN -? Anything _I_ need to do to allow it? List User
2001-01-27 9:58 ` Matti Aarnio
2001-01-27 0:15 ` hotmail not dealing with ECN Thunder from the hill
2001-01-26 11:50 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-26 13:52 ` James Sutherland
2001-01-26 14:11 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-26 18:19 ` Olaf Titz
2001-01-26 13:54 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-26 14:12 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-26 15:08 ` James Sutherland
2001-01-26 15:13 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2001-01-26 15:29 ` James Sutherland
2001-01-26 15:55 ` Chris Ricker
2001-01-26 18:37 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-01-26 19:17 ` Matti Aarnio
2001-01-26 19:55 ` Jeremy M. Dolan
2001-01-26 15:34 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-26 17:37 ` Drago Goricanec
2001-01-26 14:10 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-26 14:39 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-26 14:46 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2001-01-26 14:50 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-26 14:57 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-27 0:18 ` Thunder from the hill
2001-01-25 17:26 Bernd Eckenfels
2001-01-26 7:53 Bernd Eckenfels
2001-01-26 16:04 Randal, Phil
2001-01-26 16:37 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2001-01-26 17:18 ` Tony Hoyle
2001-01-26 18:42 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-01-31 16:45 ` Alan Cox
2001-01-26 17:28 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2001-01-26 21:21 ` David Ford
2001-01-29 9:42 ` Helge Hafting
2001-01-26 17:14 James Sutherland
2001-01-26 23:25 ` Daniel Chemko
2001-01-26 19:43 ` Chris Meadors
2001-01-29 14:57 ` Thunder from the hill
2001-01-26 17:53 Adam J. Richter
2001-01-26 17:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-01-26 18:15 ` Alan Shutko
2001-01-26 18:32 ` Graham Murray
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2001-01-26 21:52 ` Stuart Lynne
2001-01-26 21:59 ` Michael H. Warfield
2001-01-27 9:48 ` Matti Aarnio
2001-01-27 18:55 Bernd Eckenfels
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