From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>
To: Boqun Feng <boqun@kernel.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org,
x86@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] locking: Revert switching guards to _irq_{disable,enable}()
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2026 15:43:47 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tso9axyk.ffs@fw13> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <apV2iSFXlc3XY7Wk@tardis.local>
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2026 at 12:02:50PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> Right, that's why I thought fully revert on commit e901c1510e24 might
> not be needed.
It's gone already and as I told you before the reason is that the issues
were not restricted to the ordering parts v.s. count/hardware and the
fallout in the softirq code. The whole issue with nested unlock/lock
inside a guard are not solved by reordering local_interrupt_disable().
Not to talk about the lack of proper debug features for it.
> And if PREEMPT_COUNT_IRQFLAGS=y is the future (i.e. it'll be always y),
> then we will likely have local_interrupt_{en,dis}able() (or a different
> name) as a general API for everyone. So the API (and its semantics) is
> not Rust-specific considering the future direction. Hence previously I
> said that we can move them to Rust only but seems a bit unnecessary to
> me.
No. We need a proper strategy to pull that off and not exposing the
functionality and the name right now outside of Rust makes that way
simpler. Changing Rust is one thing, chasing down a pile of random use
cases which crept in _before_ the design and strategy is settled is a
completely different story.
Thanks,
tglx
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-01 13:43 UTC|newest]
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2026-08-04 16:14 [PATCH v4 00/17] Refcounted interrupt disable and SpinLockIrq for Rust Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 01/17] preempt: Track NMI nesting to separate per-CPU counter Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48 ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Joel Fernandes
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 02/17] preempt: Introduce HARDIRQ_DISABLE_BITS Boqun Feng
2026-08-05 6:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-05 6:59 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48 ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 03/17] preempt: Introduce __preempt_count_{sub,add}_return() Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48 ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 04/17] openrisc: Include <linux/cpumask.h> in smp.h Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48 ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Lyude Paul
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 05/17] irq & spin_lock: Add counted interrupt disabling/enabling Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 18:20 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 18:26 ` [PATCH v4.1 " Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48 ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-10 8:57 ` [tip: locking/core] irq,spin_lock: " tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 20:51 ` [PATCH v4 05/17] irq & spin_lock: " Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-04 21:08 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-05 6:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-05 7:07 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-05 7:09 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-05 7:19 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-05 13:53 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-05 14:10 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-05 14:20 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-05 14:56 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-05 15:11 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-05 16:53 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-05 17:38 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-05 18:07 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 06/17] irq: Add KUnit test for refcounted interrupt enable/disable Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48 ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Lyude Paul
2026-08-10 8:57 ` tip-bot2 for Lyude Paul
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 07/17] locking: Switch to _irq_{disable,enable}() variants in cleanup guards Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48 ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-10 8:57 ` tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-24 10:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-24 10:55 ` [PATCH] locking: Revert switching guards to _irq_{disable,enable}() Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-24 11:01 ` [tip: locking/urgent] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-25 1:33 ` [PATCH] " Boqun Feng
2026-08-25 22:59 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-25 23:28 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-25 23:48 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-26 1:33 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-27 8:30 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-27 13:14 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-27 15:43 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-27 16:52 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-27 18:15 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-27 19:41 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-27 22:52 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-28 1:56 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-28 6:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-28 23:11 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-29 0:45 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-29 20:44 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-29 20:53 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-29 8:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-29 19:52 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-29 23:37 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-30 15:18 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-30 19:57 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-30 21:23 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-31 10:02 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-31 12:41 ` Boqun Feng
2026-09-01 13:43 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2026-09-01 15:13 ` Boqun Feng
2026-09-04 13:19 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-04 13:14 ` [PATCH] irq: Move local_irq_enable/disable() into Rust, Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-04 13:26 ` [PATCH] irq: Move local_irq_enable/disable() into Rust Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-04 15:25 ` Boqun Feng
2026-09-04 21:20 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-30 21:42 ` [PATCH] locking: Revert switching guards to _irq_{disable,enable}() Boqun Feng
2026-08-31 9:56 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-30 20:01 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-27 20:29 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-27 21:33 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-28 6:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-28 8:22 ` David Laight
2026-08-28 21:26 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 08/17] sched: Remove the unused preempt_offset parameter of __cant_sleep() Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48 ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-10 8:57 ` tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 09/17] sched: Avoid signed comparison of preempt_count() in __cant_migrate() Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48 ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-10 8:57 ` tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 10/17] preempt: Introduce HAS_SEPARATE_PREEMPT_RESCHED_BITS Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 20:11 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-05 6:54 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-05 7:15 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-05 7:27 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-06 0:58 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 21:09 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-04 23:14 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48 ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-10 8:57 ` tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 11/17] arm64: sched/preempt: Enable HAS_SEPARATE_PREEMPT_RESCHED_BITS Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48 ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-10 8:57 ` tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 12/17] s390/preempt: " Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 20:27 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-05 9:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-05 12:37 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-08 20:48 ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Heiko Carstens
2026-08-10 8:57 ` tip-bot2 for Heiko Carstens
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 13/17] rust: Introduce interrupt module Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 14/17] rust: helper: Add spin_{un,}lock_irq_{enable,disable}() helpers Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 15/17] rust: sync: Use super::* in spinlock.rs Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 16/17] rust: sync: Add SpinLockIrq Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 17/17] rust: sync: Introduce SpinLockIrq::lock_with() and friends Boqun Feng
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