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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>
To: Boqun Feng <boqun@kernel.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org,
	x86@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] locking: Revert switching guards to _irq_{disable,enable}()
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2026 15:43:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tso9axyk.ffs@fw13> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <apV2iSFXlc3XY7Wk@tardis.local>

> On Mon, Aug 31, 2026 at 12:02:50PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> Right, that's why I thought fully revert on commit e901c1510e24 might
> not be needed.

It's gone already and as I told you before the reason is that the issues
were not restricted to the ordering parts v.s. count/hardware and the
fallout in the softirq code. The whole issue with nested unlock/lock
inside a guard are not solved by reordering local_interrupt_disable().
Not to talk about the lack of proper debug features for it.

> And if PREEMPT_COUNT_IRQFLAGS=y is the future (i.e. it'll be always y),
> then we will likely have local_interrupt_{en,dis}able() (or a different
> name) as a general API for everyone. So the API (and its semantics) is
> not Rust-specific considering the future direction. Hence previously I
> said that we can move them to Rust only but seems a bit unnecessary to
> me.

No. We need a proper strategy to pull that off and not exposing the
functionality and the name right now outside of Rust makes that way
simpler. Changing Rust is one thing, chasing down a pile of random use
cases which crept in _before_ the design and strategy is settled is a
completely different story.

Thanks,

        tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-01 13:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-04 16:14 [PATCH v4 00/17] Refcounted interrupt disable and SpinLockIrq for Rust Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 01/17] preempt: Track NMI nesting to separate per-CPU counter Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48   ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Joel Fernandes
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 02/17] preempt: Introduce HARDIRQ_DISABLE_BITS Boqun Feng
2026-08-05  6:31   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-05  6:59     ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48   ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 03/17] preempt: Introduce __preempt_count_{sub,add}_return() Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48   ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 04/17] openrisc: Include <linux/cpumask.h> in smp.h Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48   ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Lyude Paul
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 05/17] irq & spin_lock: Add counted interrupt disabling/enabling Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 18:20   ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 18:26   ` [PATCH v4.1 " Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48     ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-10  8:57     ` [tip: locking/core] irq,spin_lock: " tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 20:51   ` [PATCH v4 05/17] irq & spin_lock: " Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-04 21:08     ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-05  6:36       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-05  7:07         ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-05  7:09           ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-05  7:19             ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-05 13:53               ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-05 14:10                 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-05 14:20                   ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-05 14:56                     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-05 15:11                       ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-05 16:53                         ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-05 17:38                           ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-05 18:07                       ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 06/17] irq: Add KUnit test for refcounted interrupt enable/disable Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48   ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Lyude Paul
2026-08-10  8:57   ` tip-bot2 for Lyude Paul
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 07/17] locking: Switch to _irq_{disable,enable}() variants in cleanup guards Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48   ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-10  8:57   ` tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-24 10:47     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-24 10:55       ` [PATCH] locking: Revert switching guards to _irq_{disable,enable}() Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-24 11:01         ` [tip: locking/urgent] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-25  1:33         ` [PATCH] " Boqun Feng
2026-08-25 22:59           ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-25 23:28             ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-25 23:48               ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-26  1:33                 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-27  8:30               ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-27 13:14                 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-27 15:43                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-27 16:52                     ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-27 18:15                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-27 19:41                         ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-27 22:52                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-28  1:56                             ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-28  6:42                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-28 23:11                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-29  0:45                               ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-29 20:44                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-29 20:53                                   ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-29  8:05                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-29 19:52                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-29 23:37                               ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-30 15:18                                 ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-30 19:57                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-30 21:23                                     ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-31 10:02                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-31 12:41                                         ` Boqun Feng
2026-09-01 13:43                                           ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2026-09-01 15:13                                             ` Boqun Feng
2026-09-04 13:19                                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-04 13:14                                             ` [PATCH] irq: Move local_irq_enable/disable() into Rust, Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-04 13:26                                               ` [PATCH] irq: Move local_irq_enable/disable() into Rust Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-04 15:25                                                 ` Boqun Feng
2026-09-04 21:20                                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-30 21:42                                     ` [PATCH] locking: Revert switching guards to _irq_{disable,enable}() Boqun Feng
2026-08-31  9:56                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-30 20:01                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-27 20:29                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-27 21:33                   ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-28  6:55                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-28  8:22                     ` David Laight
2026-08-28 21:26                       ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 08/17] sched: Remove the unused preempt_offset parameter of __cant_sleep() Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48   ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-10  8:57   ` tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 09/17] sched: Avoid signed comparison of preempt_count() in __cant_migrate() Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48   ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-10  8:57   ` tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 10/17] preempt: Introduce HAS_SEPARATE_PREEMPT_RESCHED_BITS Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 20:11   ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-05  6:54     ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-05  7:15       ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-05  7:27         ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-06  0:58       ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 21:09   ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-04 23:14     ` Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48   ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-10  8:57   ` tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 11/17] arm64: sched/preempt: Enable HAS_SEPARATE_PREEMPT_RESCHED_BITS Boqun Feng
2026-08-08 20:48   ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-10  8:57   ` tip-bot2 for Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 12/17] s390/preempt: " Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 20:27   ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-05  9:42     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-05 12:37       ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-08-08 20:48   ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Heiko Carstens
2026-08-10  8:57   ` tip-bot2 for Heiko Carstens
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 13/17] rust: Introduce interrupt module Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 14/17] rust: helper: Add spin_{un,}lock_irq_{enable,disable}() helpers Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 15/17] rust: sync: Use super::* in spinlock.rs Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 16/17] rust: sync: Add SpinLockIrq Boqun Feng
2026-08-04 16:14 ` [PATCH v4 17/17] rust: sync: Introduce SpinLockIrq::lock_with() and friends Boqun Feng

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