From: "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>
To: "Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>, "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>
Cc: "Alexandre Courbot" <acourbot@nvidia.com>,
"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
"Daniel Almeida" <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>,
"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
"Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>,
"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
"Yury Norov" <yury.norov@gmail.com>,
"John Hubbard" <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
"Alistair Popple" <apopple@nvidia.com>,
"Joel Fernandes" <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>,
"Timur Tabi" <ttabi@nvidia.com>, "Edwin Peer" <epeer@nvidia.com>,
"Eliot Courtney" <ecourtney@nvidia.com>,
"Dirk Behme" <dirk.behme@de.bosch.com>,
"Steven Price" <steven.price@arm.com>,
rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 5/7] rust: io: add `register!` macro
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2026 17:01:31 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <DG232UE5TCK2.3FQARVQKDTUIL@garyguo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DG22Q420ISG8.169OONC5IKK7I@kernel.org>
On Fri Jan 30, 2026 at 4:44 PM GMT, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
> On Fri Jan 30, 2026 at 5:14 PM CET, Gary Guo wrote:
>> On Fri Jan 30, 2026 at 6:55 AM GMT, Alexandre Courbot wrote:
>>> No, I'm starting to believe that the fundamental issue is that the
>>> register interface does its I/O backwards, and that design issue is only
>>> exacerbated by the recent I/O redesign. I.e. instead of doing
>>>
>>> regs::NV_PMC_BOOT_0::read(bar);
>>>
>>> We should really do
>>>
>>> bar.read_reg::<regs::NV_PMC_BOOT_0>();
>>>
>>> Because that way we can use deref coercion.
>>>
>>> That's quite a big redesign though, which means I don't believe
>>> `register!` can make it this cycle... I'll give it a try though.
>>
>> Hmm, that's unfortunate, but I think this is indeed a big design change that we
>> should iron out before merging...
>>
>> I think you're right that if we put the methods on `Io` then all of the deref
>> issue would just went away.
>
> I already discussed this with Alex offline and I think we should not take this
> direction just because of the Deref issue, as we can easily overcome this with
> using AsRef (or a custom trait).
`AsRef` won't work for `Io` which is a trait, unlike `Device` which is a type. A
custom trait might work but that's more complex than what Alex purposed.
I'm quite fond of the `io.read_reg(REGISTER_REF)` API suggested. It looks quite
uniform with other I/O acceessor methods, except typed and with constant
offsets.
>
> Whereas the downside of bar.read_reg() is that you end up with a more
> inconsistent and complicated API for drivers.
>
> For instance, with the API as is you can do things like:
>
> register!(NV_PFALCON_FALCON_ENGINE @ PFalconBase[0x000003c0] {
> 0:0 reset as bool;
> });
>
> impl NV_PFALCON_FALCON_ENGINE {
> pub(crate) fn reset_engine<E: FalconEngine>(bar: &Bar0) {
> Self::update(bar, &E::ID, |r| r.set_reset(true));
>
> // TIMEOUT: falcon engine should not take more than 10us to reset.
> time::delay::fsleep(time::Delta::from_micros(10));
>
> Self::update(bar, &E::ID, |r| r.set_reset(false));
> }
> }
The only benefit of this compared to the newly proposed API is that you can use
`Self`. It's not too bad to have (hypothetical API)
pub(crate) fn reset_engine<E: FalconEngine>(bar: &Bar0) {
bar.update_reg(NV_PFALCON_FALCON_ENGINE(&E::ID), |r| r.set_reset(true));
// TIMEOUT: falcon engine should not take more than 10us to reset.
time::delay::fsleep(time::Delta::from_micros(10));
bar.update_reg(NV_PFALCON_FALCON_ENGINE(&E::ID), |r| r.set_reset(true));
}
I also think in most cases these helper function won't be implemented on the
register, so you're not saving much by having the ability to refer to `Self`.
For example, in this case you could implement it on `FalconEngine`.
Best,
Gary
>
> and then use this from the driver code like this:
>
> impl<E: FalconEngine> FalconHal<E> for Tu102<E> {
> fn do_stuff(&self, bar: &Bar0) {
> //...
>
> regs::NV_PFALCON_FALCON_ENGINE::reset_engine::<E>(bar);
>
> //...
> }
> }
>
> Having to implement AsRef (or a custom trait) for the corresponding I/O backend
> implementations is a pretty minor inconvinience compared to the simplicity the
> current API provides to drivers.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-30 17:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-28 2:37 [PATCH v4 0/7] rust: " Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-28 2:37 ` [PATCH v4 1/7] rust: enable the `generic_arg_infer` feature Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-28 2:37 ` [PATCH v4 2/7] rust: num: add `shr` and `shl` methods to `Bounded` Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-28 15:38 ` Gary Guo
2026-01-28 2:37 ` [PATCH v4 3/7] rust: num: add `as_bool` method to `Bounded<_, 1>` Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-28 2:37 ` [PATCH v4 4/7] rust: num: add `into_inner` method to `Bounded` Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-28 15:43 ` Gary Guo
2026-01-29 8:05 ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-29 20:23 ` Gary Guo
2026-01-30 0:58 ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-28 2:37 ` [PATCH v4 5/7] rust: io: add `register!` macro Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-28 3:02 ` John Hubbard
2026-01-28 3:47 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-01-28 7:42 ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-28 17:56 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-01-29 11:59 ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-28 16:16 ` Gary Guo
2026-01-29 8:00 ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-29 14:10 ` Gary Guo
2026-01-29 21:08 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-30 6:55 ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-30 16:14 ` Gary Guo
2026-01-30 16:44 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-30 17:01 ` Gary Guo [this message]
2026-01-30 17:18 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-29 12:48 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-28 2:37 ` [PATCH v4 6/7] sample: rust: pci: use " Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-28 12:35 ` Zhi Wang
2026-01-28 13:27 ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-28 15:46 ` Gary Guo
2026-01-29 8:01 ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-31 1:06 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-28 2:37 ` [PATCH FOR REFERENCE v4 7/7] gpu: nova-core: use the kernel " Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-28 2:57 ` John Hubbard
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