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From: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Lee Schermerhorn <Lee.Schermerhorn@hp.com>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>,
	Maksim Yevmenkin <maksim.yevmenkin@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	will@crowder-design.com, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Mikos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fix OOPS in mmap_region() when merging adjacent VM_LOCKED file segments
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 12:16:11 +0000 (GMT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0901311209140.6763@blonde.anvils> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0901301326020.3150@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, 30 Jan 2009, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Jan 2009, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> > 
> > By the same (used to merge, now won't) argument, one could say
> > VM_INSERTPAGE should be there too; but whereas VM_MIXEDMAP is used
> > in one place only, quite a lot of drivers use vm_insert_page(), so
> > I feel more comfortable with the idea that it's stopping merges -
> > though in that case, shouldn't we add it to VM_SPECIAL?
> 
> But VM_INSERTPAGE - no.
> 
> Why? Because VM_INSERTPAGE implies that mmap() itself quite possibly 
> actually _does_ something (it may have inserted _all_ the pages, and may 
> not even have any ->fault handler at all).
> 
> So we can't just expand a current mapping and forget about it, we need to 
> do the mmap(). So the "only do merges early" fundamentally cannot merge 
> such a vma, even if the old code did.

Good point indeed.  Same as why we test for it in copy_page_range().
Should it be added to VM_SPECIAL?  Not for this particular (need to
call ->mmap) reason, but we probably ought to add it anyway.

Hugh

> 
> Of course, we could look at whether it has a ->fault handler as an 
> indication of whether it's possible to merge or not. We already do that 
> for ->close, and in many ways ->fault would likely be a better indicator 
> of whether something is mergeable or not.
> 
> But there's really no point. VM_INSERTPAGE implies a very special mapping: 
> it's used by things like the SCSI target user space ring map, or the magic 
> network packet mmap thing. If you use those things, you really don't care 
> about merging adjacent VM's anyway, and at least the two I looked at 
> really do the whole "pre-populate at mmap time" thing.
> 
> And at least the packet one really does have a ->close function, and lacks 
> a ->fault function, so it wouldn't have merged before either (and looking 
> at ->fault again seems to be as valid as looking at ->close).
> 
> 			Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-31 12:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.0901281316450.3123@localhost.localdomain>
2009-01-29 20:03   ` Lee Schermerhorn
2009-01-29 20:33     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-29 20:48       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-29 22:32         ` Hugh Dickins
2009-01-29 23:02           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-30  4:43             ` Lee Schermerhorn
2009-01-30  4:49               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-29 22:47         ` Maksim Yevmenkin
2009-01-29 22:48           ` Randy Dunlap
2009-01-29 23:31             ` Maksim Yevmenkin
2009-01-30  2:08           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-30  5:56             ` Greg KH
2009-01-30 16:36               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-30 17:40                 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-01-30 18:14                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-30 18:30                     ` Hugh Dickins
2009-01-30 19:53                     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2009-01-30 20:31                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-30 21:12                         ` Hugh Dickins
2009-01-30 21:25                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-30 21:36                           ` Lee Schermerhorn
2009-01-30 22:27                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-31 12:35                               ` Hugh Dickins
2009-01-31 18:34                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-02 11:59                                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-02-02 12:54                                     ` Hugh Dickins
2009-02-02 14:10                                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-02-02 18:58                                         ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-02 19:23                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-02 21:50                                             ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-02 22:12                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-02 22:35                                                 ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-02 18:33                                       ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-03 16:13                                 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2009-02-03 16:40                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03 17:10                                   ` Hugh Dickins
2009-02-03 21:50                                     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2009-01-30 21:37                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-31 12:16                             ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2009-01-30 20:33                       ` Hugh Dickins
2009-01-30 20:53                       ` Randy Dunlap
2009-01-30 20:59                         ` Lee Schermerhorn
2009-01-30 21:11                           ` Will Crowder
2009-01-30 23:44                   ` Greg KH
2009-01-30  8:34         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-30 16:45           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-30 16:49             ` Randy Dunlap

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