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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 08/21] KVM: TDX: Increase/decrease folio ref for huge pages
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2025 17:55:43 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a40d2c0105652dfcc01169775d6852bd4729c0a3.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aGJxU95VvQvQ3bj6@yzhao56-desk.sh.intel.com>
On Mon, 2025-06-30 at 19:13 +0800, Yan Zhao wrote:
> > > ok! Lets go f/g. Unless Yan objects.
> I'm ok with f/g. But I have two implementation specific questions:
>
> 1. How to set the HWPoison bit in TDX?
> 2. Should we set this bit for non-guest-memfd pages (e.g. for S-EPT pages) ?
Argh, I guess we can keep the existing ref count based approach for the other
types of TDX owned pages?
>
> TDX can't invoke memory_failure() on error of removing guest private pages or
> S-EPT pages, because holding write mmu_lock is regarded as in atomic context.
> As there's a mutex in memory_failure(),
> "BUG: sleeping function called from invalid context at kernel/locking/mutex.c"
> will be printed.
>
> If TDX invokes memory_failure_queue() instead, looks guest_memfd can invoke
> memory_failure_queue_kick() to ensure HWPoison bit is set timely.
> But which component could invoke memory_failure_queue_kick() for S-EPT pages?
> KVM?
Hmm, it only has queue of 10 pages per-cpu. If something goes wrong in the TDX
module, I could see exceeding this during a zap operation. At which point, how
much have we really handled it?
But, at the risk of derailing the solution when we are close, some reflection
has made me question whether this is all misprioritized. We are trying to handle
a case where a TDX module bug may return an error when we try to release gmem
pages. For that, this solution is feeling way too complex.
If there is a TDX module bug, a simpler way to handle it would be to fix the
bug. In the meantime the kernel can take simpler, more drastic efforts to
reclaim the memory and ensure system stability.
In the host kexec patches we need to handle a kexec while the TDX module is
running. The solution is to simply wbinvd on each pCPU that might have entered
the TDX module. After that, barring no new SEAMCALLs that could dirty
memory, the pages are free to use by the next kernel. (at least on systems
without the partial write errata)
So for this we can do something similar. Have the arch/x86 side of TDX grow a
new tdx_buggy_shutdown(). Have it do an all-cpu IPI to kick CPUs out of
SEAMMODE, wbivnd, and set a "no more seamcalls" bool. Then any SEAMCALLs after
that will return a TDX_BUGGY_SHUTDOWN error, or similar. All TDs in the system
die. Zap/cleanup paths return success in the buggy shutdown case.
Does it fit? Or, can you guys argue that the failures here are actually non-
special cases that are worth more complex recovery? I remember we talked about
IOMMU patterns that are similar, but it seems like the remaining cases under
discussion are about TDX bugs.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-30 17:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 294+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-04-24 3:00 [RFC PATCH 00/21] KVM: TDX huge page support for private memory Yan Zhao
2025-04-24 3:04 ` [RFC PATCH 01/21] KVM: gmem: Allocate 2M huge page from guest_memfd backend Yan Zhao
2025-04-24 3:04 ` [RFC PATCH 02/21] x86/virt/tdx: Enhance tdh_mem_page_aug() to support huge pages Yan Zhao
2025-04-24 7:48 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-04-24 8:41 ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-25 6:51 ` Binbin Wu
2025-04-25 7:19 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-13 18:52 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-16 9:05 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-16 17:10 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-19 9:26 ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-06-23 9:32 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-15 2:16 ` Chao Gao
2025-05-16 9:07 ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-08 8:48 ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-08 13:55 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-08 15:29 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-08 15:32 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-08 22:06 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-08 23:16 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-08 23:31 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-09 2:23 ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-09 14:08 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-04-24 3:04 ` [RFC PATCH 03/21] x86/virt/tdx: Add SEAMCALL wrapper tdh_mem_page_demote() Yan Zhao
2025-04-25 7:12 ` Binbin Wu
2025-04-25 7:17 ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-25 7:25 ` Binbin Wu
2025-04-25 9:24 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-13 18:19 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-15 8:26 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-15 17:28 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-16 2:23 ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-01 21:15 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-04-24 3:05 ` [RFC PATCH 04/21] KVM: TDX: Enforce 4KB mapping level during TD build Time Yan Zhao
2025-04-24 7:55 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-04-24 8:49 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-13 19:12 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-15 9:16 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-15 17:32 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-16 10:05 ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-24 3:05 ` [RFC PATCH 05/21] KVM: TDX: Enhance tdx_clear_page() to support huge pages Yan Zhao
2025-05-13 19:17 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-16 2:02 ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-24 3:05 ` [RFC PATCH 06/21] KVM: TDX: Assert the reclaimed pages were mapped as expected Yan Zhao
2025-05-13 19:25 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-16 2:11 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-16 17:34 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-04-24 3:05 ` [RFC PATCH 07/21] KVM: TDX: Add a helper for WBINVD on huge pages with TD's keyID Yan Zhao
2025-05-06 8:37 ` Binbin Wu
2025-05-16 3:10 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-13 19:29 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-16 3:03 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-16 17:35 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-04-24 3:06 ` [RFC PATCH 08/21] KVM: TDX: Increase/decrease folio ref for huge pages Yan Zhao
2025-04-29 0:17 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-04-29 0:49 ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-29 13:46 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-05-06 0:53 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-06 5:08 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-05-06 6:04 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-06 13:18 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-05-07 7:37 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-07 14:56 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-05-08 1:30 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-08 14:10 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-05-09 3:20 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-09 14:20 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-05-09 23:45 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-10 0:41 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-05-12 21:59 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-12 2:15 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-12 16:53 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-05-15 3:01 ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-04 20:02 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-06-05 2:42 ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-05 21:12 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-06-16 10:43 ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-16 23:27 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-11 14:30 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-06-16 9:59 ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-17 0:12 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-17 1:38 ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-17 15:52 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-18 0:19 ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-18 0:41 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-23 9:27 ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-23 18:20 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
[not found] ` <draft-diqzh606mcz0.fsf@ackerleytng-ctop.c.googlers.com>
2025-06-23 22:48 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-06-24 10:18 ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-24 21:29 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-06-24 22:22 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-24 22:00 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-24 22:14 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-24 23:30 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-06-25 0:01 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-25 7:29 ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-25 23:09 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-06-25 23:19 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-26 15:16 ` Shutemov, Kirill
2025-06-26 22:19 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-27 17:59 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-06-30 11:13 ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-30 17:55 ` Edgecombe, Rick P [this message]
2025-06-30 19:25 ` Ackerley Tng
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2025-07-01 5:01 ` Yan Zhao
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2025-07-01 6:03 ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-01 7:13 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-01 14:15 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-01 22:09 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-07-02 11:24 ` Yan Zhao
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2025-07-03 4:54 ` Yan Zhao
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2025-07-01 16:13 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
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2025-07-01 22:37 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-02 20:57 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-07-02 23:51 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-08 21:19 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-07-11 1:46 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-11 5:12 ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-11 16:14 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-14 19:49 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-07-15 15:08 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-15 22:31 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-07-02 9:08 ` Yan Zhao
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2025-07-01 5:07 ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-01 22:01 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-07-01 22:26 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-06-30 21:47 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-01 9:35 ` Yan Zhao
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2025-07-01 15:42 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-01 16:14 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-02 8:54 ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-02 13:12 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-06-25 7:08 ` Yan Zhao
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2025-06-24 22:03 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
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2025-06-17 2:00 ` Yan Zhao
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2025-06-17 6:52 ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-17 8:09 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-06-17 9:57 ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-18 4:25 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-06-18 0:34 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-18 0:46 ` Yan Zhao
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2025-06-18 6:13 ` Yan Zhao
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2025-04-24 3:06 ` [RFC PATCH 09/21] KVM: TDX: Enable 2MB mapping size after TD is RUNNABLE Yan Zhao
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2025-05-27 1:31 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-20 23:34 ` Huang, Kai
2025-05-21 2:35 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-16 9:28 ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-24 3:06 ` [RFC PATCH 10/21] KVM: x86/mmu: Disallow page merging (huge page adjustment) for mirror root Yan Zhao
2025-05-13 20:15 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-16 4:01 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-16 17:50 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-19 3:57 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-19 17:42 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-20 10:11 ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-24 3:06 ` [RFC PATCH 11/21] KVM: x86: Add "vcpu" "gfn" parameters to x86 hook private_max_mapping_level Yan Zhao
2025-04-24 3:07 ` [RFC PATCH 12/21] KVM: TDX: Determine max mapping level according to vCPU's ACCEPT level Yan Zhao
2025-05-13 21:20 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-16 6:12 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-05-16 6:30 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-16 22:02 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-19 6:39 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-19 20:17 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-04-24 3:07 ` [RFC PATCH 13/21] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Alloc external_spt page for mirror page table splitting Yan Zhao
2025-04-24 3:07 ` [RFC PATCH 14/21] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Invoke split_external_spt hook with exclusive mmu_lock Yan Zhao
2025-05-13 23:06 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-16 9:17 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-16 22:11 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-19 4:01 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-19 20:21 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-20 5:40 ` Binbin Wu
2025-05-20 9:40 ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-24 3:08 ` [RFC PATCH 15/21] KVM: TDX: Support huge page splitting with exclusive kvm->mmu_lock Yan Zhao
2025-05-20 6:18 ` Binbin Wu
2025-05-20 9:40 ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-02 15:47 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-04-24 3:08 ` [RFC PATCH 16/21] KVM: x86/mmu: Introduce kvm_split_boundary_leafs() to split boundary leafs Yan Zhao
2025-05-13 22:56 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-16 7:46 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-16 8:03 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-16 22:27 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-19 8:12 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-16 11:44 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-16 22:16 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-04-24 3:08 ` [RFC PATCH 17/21] KVM: Change the return type of gfn_handler_t() from bool to int Yan Zhao
2025-04-24 3:08 ` [RFC PATCH 18/21] KVM: x86: Split huge boundary leafs before private to shared conversion Yan Zhao
2025-05-09 23:34 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-12 2:25 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-12 21:53 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-04-24 3:08 ` [RFC PATCH 19/21] KVM: gmem: Split huge boundary leafs for punch hole of private memory Yan Zhao
2025-04-24 10:19 ` Francesco Lavra
2025-04-25 1:55 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-13 22:59 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-16 8:19 ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-24 3:09 ` [RFC PATCH 20/21] KVM: x86: Force a prefetch fault's max mapping level to 4KB for TDX Yan Zhao
2025-05-13 23:20 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-16 8:43 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-21 3:30 ` Binbin Wu
2025-05-21 5:03 ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-24 3:09 ` [RFC PATCH 21/21] KVM: x86: Ignore splitting huge pages in fault path " Yan Zhao
2025-05-13 21:58 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-16 6:40 ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-24 7:35 ` [RFC PATCH 00/21] KVM: TDX huge page support for private memory Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-04-24 8:33 ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-24 9:05 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-04-24 9:08 ` Juergen Gross
2025-04-24 9:49 ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-24 10:39 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
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