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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 09/21] KVM: TDX: Enable 2MB mapping size after TD is RUNNABLE
Date: Mon, 19 May 2025 16:53:33 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f9a2354f8265efb9ed99beb871e471f92adf133f.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aCrsi1k4y8mGdfv7@yzhao56-desk.sh.intel.com>
On Mon, 2025-05-19 at 16:32 +0800, Yan Zhao wrote:
> > On the opposite, if other non-Linux TDs don't follow 1G->2M->4K accept
> > order,
> > e.g., they always accept 4K, there could be *endless EPT violation* if I
> > understand your words correctly.
> >
> > Isn't this yet-another reason we should choose to return PG_LEVEL_4K instead
> > of
> > 2M if no accept level is provided in the fault?
> As I said, returning PG_LEVEL_4K would disallow huge pages for non-Linux TDs.
> TD's accept operations at size > 4KB will get TDACCEPT_SIZE_MISMATCH.
TDX_PAGE_SIZE_MISMATCH is a valid error code that the guest should handle. The
docs say the VMM needs to demote *if* the mapping is large and the accept size
is small. But if we map at 4k size for non-accept EPT violations, we won't hit
this case. I also wonder what is preventing the TDX module from handling a 2MB
accept size at 4k mappings. It could be changed maybe.
But I think Kai's question was: why are we complicating the code for the case of
non-Linux TDs that also use #VE for accept? It's not necessary to be functional,
and there aren't any known TDs like that which are expected to use KVM today.
(err, except the MMU stress test). So in another form the question is: should we
optimize KVM for a case we don't even know if anyone will use? The answer seems
obviously no to me.
I think this connects the question of whether we can pass the necessary info
into fault via synthetic error code. Consider this new design:
- tdx_gmem_private_max_mapping_level() simply returns 4k for prefetch and pre-
runnable, otherwise returns 2MB
- if fault has accept info 2MB size, pass 2MB size into fault. Otherwise pass
4k (i.e. VMs that are relying on #VE to do the accept won't get huge pages
*yet*).
What goes wrong? Seems simpler and no more stuffing fault info on the vcpu.
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Thread overview: 294+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-04-24 3:00 [RFC PATCH 00/21] KVM: TDX huge page support for private memory Yan Zhao
2025-04-24 3:04 ` [RFC PATCH 01/21] KVM: gmem: Allocate 2M huge page from guest_memfd backend Yan Zhao
2025-04-24 3:04 ` [RFC PATCH 02/21] x86/virt/tdx: Enhance tdh_mem_page_aug() to support huge pages Yan Zhao
2025-04-24 7:48 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-04-24 8:41 ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-25 6:51 ` Binbin Wu
2025-04-25 7:19 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-13 18:52 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-16 9:05 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-16 17:10 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-19 9:26 ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-06-23 9:32 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-15 2:16 ` Chao Gao
2025-05-16 9:07 ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-08 8:48 ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-08 13:55 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-08 15:29 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-08 15:32 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-08 22:06 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-08 23:16 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-08 23:31 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-09 2:23 ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-09 14:08 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-04-24 3:04 ` [RFC PATCH 03/21] x86/virt/tdx: Add SEAMCALL wrapper tdh_mem_page_demote() Yan Zhao
2025-04-25 7:12 ` Binbin Wu
2025-04-25 7:17 ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-25 7:25 ` Binbin Wu
2025-04-25 9:24 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-13 18:19 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-15 8:26 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-15 17:28 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-16 2:23 ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-01 21:15 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-04-24 3:05 ` [RFC PATCH 04/21] KVM: TDX: Enforce 4KB mapping level during TD build Time Yan Zhao
2025-04-24 7:55 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-04-24 8:49 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-13 19:12 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-15 9:16 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-15 17:32 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-16 10:05 ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-24 3:05 ` [RFC PATCH 05/21] KVM: TDX: Enhance tdx_clear_page() to support huge pages Yan Zhao
2025-05-13 19:17 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-16 2:02 ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-24 3:05 ` [RFC PATCH 06/21] KVM: TDX: Assert the reclaimed pages were mapped as expected Yan Zhao
2025-05-13 19:25 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-16 2:11 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-16 17:34 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-04-24 3:05 ` [RFC PATCH 07/21] KVM: TDX: Add a helper for WBINVD on huge pages with TD's keyID Yan Zhao
2025-05-06 8:37 ` Binbin Wu
2025-05-16 3:10 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-13 19:29 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-16 3:03 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-16 17:35 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-04-24 3:06 ` [RFC PATCH 08/21] KVM: TDX: Increase/decrease folio ref for huge pages Yan Zhao
2025-04-29 0:17 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-04-29 0:49 ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-29 13:46 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-05-06 0:53 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-06 5:08 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-05-06 6:04 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-06 13:18 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-05-07 7:37 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-07 14:56 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-05-08 1:30 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-08 14:10 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-05-09 3:20 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-09 14:20 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-05-09 23:45 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-10 0:41 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-05-12 21:59 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-12 2:15 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-12 16:53 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-05-15 3:01 ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-04 20:02 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-06-05 2:42 ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-05 21:12 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-06-16 10:43 ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-16 23:27 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-11 14:30 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-06-16 9:59 ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-17 0:12 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-17 1:38 ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-17 15:52 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-18 0:19 ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-18 0:41 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-23 9:27 ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-23 18:20 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
[not found] ` <draft-diqzh606mcz0.fsf@ackerleytng-ctop.c.googlers.com>
2025-06-23 22:48 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-06-24 10:18 ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-24 21:29 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-06-24 22:22 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-24 22:00 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-24 22:14 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-24 23:30 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-06-25 0:01 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-25 7:29 ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-25 23:09 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-06-25 23:19 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-26 15:16 ` Shutemov, Kirill
2025-06-26 22:19 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-27 17:59 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-06-30 11:13 ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-30 17:55 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-30 19:25 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-06-30 21:45 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-01 5:01 ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-01 5:22 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-01 6:03 ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-01 7:13 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-01 14:15 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-01 22:09 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-07-02 11:24 ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-02 18:43 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-07-03 4:54 ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-14 19:32 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-07-01 16:13 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-01 21:48 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-07-01 21:57 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-07-01 22:37 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-02 20:57 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-07-02 23:51 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-08 21:19 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-07-11 1:46 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-11 5:12 ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-11 16:14 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-14 19:49 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-07-15 15:08 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-15 22:31 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-07-02 9:08 ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-02 15:28 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-01 5:07 ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-01 22:01 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-07-01 22:26 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-06-30 21:47 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-01 9:35 ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-01 13:32 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-01 14:02 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-01 15:42 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-01 16:14 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-02 8:54 ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-02 13:12 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-06-25 7:08 ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-25 22:54 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-06-24 22:03 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-17 0:25 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-17 2:00 ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-17 3:51 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-06-17 6:52 ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-17 8:09 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-06-17 9:57 ` Yan Zhao
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2025-06-18 0:34 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-18 0:46 ` Yan Zhao
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2025-06-18 6:13 ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-18 6:21 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-06-18 6:32 ` Yan Zhao
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2025-06-18 6:57 ` Yan Zhao
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2025-06-19 8:11 ` Yan Zhao
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2025-04-24 3:06 ` [RFC PATCH 09/21] KVM: TDX: Enable 2MB mapping size after TD is RUNNABLE Yan Zhao
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2025-04-24 3:06 ` [RFC PATCH 10/21] KVM: x86/mmu: Disallow page merging (huge page adjustment) for mirror root Yan Zhao
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2025-05-16 4:01 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-16 17:50 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-19 3:57 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-19 17:42 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-20 10:11 ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-24 3:06 ` [RFC PATCH 11/21] KVM: x86: Add "vcpu" "gfn" parameters to x86 hook private_max_mapping_level Yan Zhao
2025-04-24 3:07 ` [RFC PATCH 12/21] KVM: TDX: Determine max mapping level according to vCPU's ACCEPT level Yan Zhao
2025-05-13 21:20 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-16 6:12 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-05-16 6:30 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-16 22:02 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-19 6:39 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-19 20:17 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-04-24 3:07 ` [RFC PATCH 13/21] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Alloc external_spt page for mirror page table splitting Yan Zhao
2025-04-24 3:07 ` [RFC PATCH 14/21] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Invoke split_external_spt hook with exclusive mmu_lock Yan Zhao
2025-05-13 23:06 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-16 9:17 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-16 22:11 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-19 4:01 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-19 20:21 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-20 5:40 ` Binbin Wu
2025-05-20 9:40 ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-24 3:08 ` [RFC PATCH 15/21] KVM: TDX: Support huge page splitting with exclusive kvm->mmu_lock Yan Zhao
2025-05-20 6:18 ` Binbin Wu
2025-05-20 9:40 ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-02 15:47 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-04-24 3:08 ` [RFC PATCH 16/21] KVM: x86/mmu: Introduce kvm_split_boundary_leafs() to split boundary leafs Yan Zhao
2025-05-13 22:56 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-16 7:46 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-16 8:03 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-16 22:27 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-19 8:12 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-16 11:44 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-16 22:16 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-04-24 3:08 ` [RFC PATCH 17/21] KVM: Change the return type of gfn_handler_t() from bool to int Yan Zhao
2025-04-24 3:08 ` [RFC PATCH 18/21] KVM: x86: Split huge boundary leafs before private to shared conversion Yan Zhao
2025-05-09 23:34 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-12 2:25 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-12 21:53 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-04-24 3:08 ` [RFC PATCH 19/21] KVM: gmem: Split huge boundary leafs for punch hole of private memory Yan Zhao
2025-04-24 10:19 ` Francesco Lavra
2025-04-25 1:55 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-13 22:59 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-16 8:19 ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-24 3:09 ` [RFC PATCH 20/21] KVM: x86: Force a prefetch fault's max mapping level to 4KB for TDX Yan Zhao
2025-05-13 23:20 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-16 8:43 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-21 3:30 ` Binbin Wu
2025-05-21 5:03 ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-24 3:09 ` [RFC PATCH 21/21] KVM: x86: Ignore splitting huge pages in fault path " Yan Zhao
2025-05-13 21:58 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-16 6:40 ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-24 7:35 ` [RFC PATCH 00/21] KVM: TDX huge page support for private memory Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-04-24 8:33 ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-24 9:05 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-04-24 9:08 ` Juergen Gross
2025-04-24 9:49 ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-24 10:39 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
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