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From: David Lechner <dlechner@baylibre.com>
To: Francesco Lavra <flavra@baylibre.com>,
	Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@intel.com>
Cc: "Jonathan Cameron" <jic23@kernel.org>,
	"Nuno Sá" <nuno.sa@analog.com>,
	"Andy Shevchenko" <andy@kernel.org>,
	linux-iio@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 5/6] iio: ABI: Add partial quaternion modifier
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2026 16:42:57 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ae79da24-1129-461f-a8ff-9dadfc863fee@baylibre.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a265489380e7abc9343c536185bc203688c5bd29.camel@baylibre.com>

On 3/4/26 8:21 AM, Francesco Lavra wrote:
> On Wed, 2026-03-04 at 13:51 +0200, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
>> On Wed, Mar 04, 2026 at 09:07:05AM +0100, Francesco Lavra wrote:
>>> This modifier applies to the IIO_ROT channel type, and indicates a data
>>> representation that specifies the {x, y, z} components of the
>>> normalized
>>> quaternion vector.
>>
>> ...
>>
>>> +What:          /sys/bus/iio/devices/iio:deviceX/in_rot_partial_quatern
>>> ion_raw
>>
>>> +               Raw value of {x, y, z} components of the quaternion
>>> vector. These
>>> +               components represent the axis about which a rotation
>>> occurs, and are
>>> +               subject to the following costraints:
>>> +               - the quaternion vector is normalized, i.e. x^2 + y^2 +
>>> z^2 + w^2 = 1
>>> +               - the rotation angle is within the [-180, 180] range,
>>> i.e. the w
>>> +                 component (which represents the amount of rotation)
>>> is non-negative
>>> +               These constraints allow the w value to be calculated
>>> from the other
>>> +               components: w = sqrt(1 - (x^2 + y^2 + z^2)).
>>
>> Just to double check if we really do not have a special mathematical term
>> for
>> that already. If we do, I prefer to have that over odd "partial
>> quaternion".
> 
> A quaternion is often represented as w + xi + yj + zk, i.e. it's composed
> of a real coefficient (w) and 3 imaginary coefficients (x, y, z). With this
> notation, the (x, y, z) components are referred to as the imaginary part of
> the quaternion.
> Alternatively, a quaternion is represented as the combination of a scalar
> value w and a 3D vector value (x, y, z). With this notation, the (x, y, z)
> components are referred to as the vector part of the quaternion; this can
> be confusing, since the quaternion as a whole is often considered as a 4D
> vector.

I'm surprised there isn't a common name for this. When I went looking, the
thing that came up most often is that Doom 3 used this in their MD5 file
format. So maybe IIO_MOD_DOOM3_QUATERNION? (joking)

I do think we could come up with something better than "partial" though.

My first thought is IIO_MOD_3D_QUATERNION since it is a 3-dimentional number,
but I could see that being confusing to some since quaternions are generally
used for rotations in 3-D space.

Maybe something like IIO_MOD_3VALUE_QUATERNION or IIO_MOD_COMPRESSED_QUATERNION
or just IIO_MOD_3QUATERNION?

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-04 22:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-04  8:05 [PATCH v7 0/6] imu: st_lsm6dsx: Add support for rotation sensor Francesco Lavra
2026-03-04  8:06 ` [PATCH v7 1/6] iio: imu: st_lsm6dsx: Fix check for invalid samples from FIFO Francesco Lavra
2026-03-07 12:46   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-03-07 15:23     ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2026-03-07 17:04       ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-03-07 17:20         ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2026-03-04  8:06 ` [PATCH v7 2/6] iio: Replace 'sign' field with union in struct iio_scan_type Francesco Lavra
2026-03-04 22:55   ` David Lechner
2026-03-07 12:47     ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-03-07 13:10   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-03-04  8:06 ` [PATCH v7 3/6] iio: tools: Add support for floating-point numbers in buffer scan elements Francesco Lavra
2026-03-04 22:53   ` David Lechner
2026-03-04  8:06 ` [PATCH v7 4/6] iio: ABI: " Francesco Lavra
2026-03-04 22:45   ` David Lechner
2026-03-05  9:09     ` Francesco Lavra
2026-03-05  9:23       ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-03-05 14:37         ` David Lechner
2026-03-06 12:09           ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-03-07 12:51             ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-03-17 10:40               ` Francesco Lavra
2026-03-04  8:07 ` [PATCH v7 5/6] iio: ABI: Add partial quaternion modifier Francesco Lavra
2026-03-04 11:51   ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-03-04 14:21     ` Francesco Lavra
2026-03-04 22:42       ` David Lechner [this message]
2026-03-05  8:50         ` Francesco Lavra
2026-03-05 14:40           ` David Lechner
2026-03-06 12:10             ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-03-04 19:25   ` kernel test robot
2026-03-04 22:35   ` David Lechner
2026-03-05  7:04     ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-03-07 13:00       ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-03-07 13:03     ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-03-08 20:27       ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-03-14 11:14         ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-03-07 13:05   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-03-04  8:07 ` [PATCH v7 6/6] iio: imu: st_lsm6dsx: Add support for rotation sensor Francesco Lavra
2026-03-04 13:39   ` Andy Shevchenko

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