From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
davem@davemloft.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
jirislaby@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Slow DOWN, please!!!
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:31:08 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0804301325260.2980@woody.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080430131537.1f7a0914.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
On Wed, 30 Apr 2008, Andrew Morton wrote:
>
> <jumps up and down>
>
> There should be nothing in 2.6.x-rc1 which wasn't in 2.6.x-mm1!
The problem I see with both -mm and linux-next is that they tend to be
better at finding the "physical conflict" kind of issues (ie the merge
itself fails) than the "code looks ok but doesn't actually work" kind of
issue.
Why?
The tester base is simply too small.
Now, if *that* could be improved, that would be wonderful, but I'm not
seeing it as very likely.
I think we have fairly good penetration these days with the regular -git
tree, but I think that one is quite frankly a *lot* less scary than -mm or
-next are, and there it has been an absolutely huge boon to get the kernel
into the Fedora test-builds etc (and I _think_ Ubuntu and SuSE also
started something like that).
So I'm very pessimistic about getting a lot of test coverage before -rc1.
Maybe too pessimistic, who knows?
Linus
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2008-04-30 2:03 David Miller
2008-04-30 4:03 ` David Newall
2008-04-30 4:18 ` David Miller
2008-04-30 13:04 ` David Newall
2008-04-30 13:18 ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-04-30 14:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-30 18:21 ` David Newall
2008-04-30 18:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-30 18:55 ` David Newall
2008-04-30 19:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-30 19:16 ` David Newall
2008-04-30 19:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-01 4:31 ` David Newall
2008-05-01 4:37 ` David Miller
2008-05-01 13:49 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-05-01 15:28 ` Kasper Sandberg
2008-05-01 17:49 ` Russ Dill
2008-05-02 1:47 ` Kasper Sandberg
2008-05-02 2:54 ` Russ Dill
2008-05-02 7:01 ` Kasper Sandberg
2008-05-02 17:34 ` Lee Mathers (TCAFS)
2008-05-02 18:21 ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-02 21:34 ` Kasper Sandberg
2008-04-30 19:06 ` Chris Friesen
2008-04-30 19:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-30 19:22 ` David Newall
2008-04-30 19:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-30 7:11 ` Tarkan Erimer
2008-04-30 13:28 ` David Newall
2008-04-30 13:38 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-04-30 14:41 ` mws
2008-04-30 14:55 ` Russ Dill
2008-04-30 14:48 ` Peter Teoh
2008-04-30 19:36 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-30 20:00 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-30 20:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-30 20:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-30 20:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-30 20:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-30 23:34 ` Greg KH
2008-04-30 20:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-30 21:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-30 22:23 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-30 22:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-30 22:41 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-30 23:23 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-30 23:41 ` david
2008-04-30 23:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-05-01 0:57 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-01 1:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-01 2:13 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-01 2:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-01 18:54 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-14 14:55 ` Pavel Machek
2008-05-01 1:35 ` Theodore Tso
2008-05-01 12:31 ` Tarkan Erimer
2008-05-01 15:34 ` Stefan Richter
2008-05-02 14:05 ` Tarkan Erimer
2008-04-30 22:46 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-30 22:52 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-30 23:21 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-30 23:38 ` Chris Shoemaker
2008-04-30 23:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-01 0:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-05-01 1:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-01 1:31 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-01 1:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-01 10:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-05-01 15:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-01 17:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-05-01 17:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-01 18:11 ` Al Viro
2008-05-01 18:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-01 18:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-01 18:58 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-05-01 19:37 ` Al Viro
2008-05-01 19:58 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-01 20:07 ` Joel Becker
2008-05-01 18:50 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-05-01 19:07 ` david
2008-05-01 19:28 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-05-01 19:46 ` david
2008-05-01 19:53 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-05-01 22:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-05-01 19:39 ` Friedrich Göpel
2008-05-01 21:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-05-02 12:17 ` Stefan Richter
2008-05-01 18:35 ` Chris Frey
2008-05-02 13:22 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-05-01 1:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-01 1:51 ` David Miller
2008-05-01 2:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-01 2:17 ` David Miller
2008-05-01 2:21 ` Al Viro
2008-05-01 5:19 ` david
2008-05-04 3:26 ` Rene Herman
2008-05-01 2:31 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-05-01 18:32 ` Stephen Clark
2008-05-01 3:53 ` Frans Pop
2008-05-01 11:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-30 14:28 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-01 12:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-30 15:06 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-01 5:50 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-05-01 11:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-05-01 12:11 ` Will Newton
2008-05-01 13:16 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-05-01 13:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-05-01 14:35 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-05-01 15:29 ` Ray Lee
2008-05-01 19:03 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-05-01 19:36 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-05-01 1:30 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-05-01 5:35 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-30 23:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-30 22:40 ` david
2008-04-30 23:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-30 23:57 ` david
2008-05-01 0:01 ` Chris Shoemaker
2008-05-01 0:14 ` david
2008-05-01 0:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-01 1:39 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-05-01 0:38 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-01 0:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-05-01 1:25 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-01 12:05 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-05-01 13:54 ` Stefan Richter
2008-05-01 14:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-30 23:29 ` Paul Mackerras
2008-05-01 1:57 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-05-01 2:52 ` Frans Pop
2008-05-01 3:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-01 4:17 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-05-01 4:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-04 13:47 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-05-04 15:05 ` Jacek Luczak
2008-05-01 9:17 ` Alan Cox
2008-04-30 20:15 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-30 20:31 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2008-04-30 20:47 ` Dan Noe
2008-04-30 20:59 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-30 21:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-30 21:37 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-30 22:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-30 22:53 ` Mariusz Kozlowski
2008-04-30 23:11 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-12 9:27 ` Ben Dooks
2008-05-02 10:20 ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-02 15:33 ` Mariusz Kozlowski
2008-04-30 20:54 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-30 21:21 ` David Miller
2008-04-30 21:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-30 22:02 ` Dmitri Vorobiev
2008-04-30 22:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-30 22:22 ` David Miller
2008-04-30 22:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-30 22:54 ` david
2008-04-30 23:12 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-30 23:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-05-01 0:15 ` Chris Shoemaker
2008-05-01 5:09 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-30 22:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-30 22:49 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-30 22:51 ` David Miller
2008-05-01 1:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-05-01 2:48 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-05 3:04 ` Rusty Russell
2008-05-02 13:37 ` Helge Hafting
2008-04-30 21:42 ` Dmitri Vorobiev
2008-04-30 22:06 ` Jiri Slaby
2008-04-30 22:10 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-30 22:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-30 22:28 ` Dmitri Vorobiev
2008-05-01 16:26 ` Diego Calleja
2008-05-01 16:31 ` Dmitri Vorobiev
2008-05-02 1:48 ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-05-01 23:06 ` Kevin Winchester
2008-04-30 23:04 ` Dmitri Vorobiev
2008-05-01 15:19 ` Jim Schutt
2008-05-01 6:15 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-05-09 9:28 ` Jiri Kosina
2008-05-09 15:00 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-04-30 21:52 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-01 3:24 ` Bob Tracy
2008-05-01 16:39 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-05-01 0:31 ` RFC: starting a kernel-testers group for newbies Adrian Bunk
2008-04-30 7:03 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-01 8:13 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-30 14:15 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-01 12:42 ` David Woodhouse
2008-04-30 15:02 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-05 10:03 ` Benny Halevy
2008-05-04 12:45 ` Rene Herman
2008-05-04 13:00 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-05-04 13:19 ` Rene Herman
2008-05-05 13:13 ` crosscompiler [WAS: RFC: starting a kernel-testers group for newbies] Enrico Weigelt
2008-05-01 9:16 ` RFC: starting a kernel-testers group for newbies Frans Pop
2008-05-01 10:30 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-05-01 13:02 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-01 11:30 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-30 14:20 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-01 12:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-05-01 13:21 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-01 15:49 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-01 1:13 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-02 9:00 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-01 16:38 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-05-01 17:18 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-01 17:24 ` Theodore Tso
2008-05-01 19:26 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-01 19:39 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-05-02 10:23 ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-02 2:08 ` Paul Mackerras
2008-05-02 3:10 ` Josh Boyer
2008-05-02 4:09 ` Paul Mackerras
2008-05-02 8:29 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-02 10:16 ` Paul Mackerras
2008-05-02 11:58 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-02 14:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-02 15:44 ` Carlos R. Mafra
2008-05-02 16:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-02 17:15 ` Carlos R. Mafra
2008-05-02 18:02 ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2008-05-09 16:32 ` Mark Lord
2008-05-09 19:30 ` Carlos R. Mafra
2008-05-09 20:39 ` Mark Lord
2008-05-01 0:41 ` David Miller
2008-05-01 13:23 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-30 20:59 Slow DOWN, please!!! devzero
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