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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: Paul Menage <menage@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>,
	"Randy.Dunlap" <rdunlap@xenotime.net>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Introduce down_try() so we can move away from down_trylock()
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:26:33 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0808011022230.3277@nehalem.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200807292301.18733.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>



On Tue, 29 Jul 2008, Rusty Russell wrote:
> 
> Introduce down_try()

I hate that name. Everybody else uses "xxx_trylock()", now you introduce a 
short version of that that just has the same return value as everybody 
else except for semaphores that admittedly were odd.

Also, all actual _users_ of down_trylock() seem to be prime candidates for 
turning into mutexes anyway - with the _possible_ exception of the console 
semaphore which has problems with the mutex debugging code.

> I planned on removing the much-disliked down_trylock() (with its
> backwards return codes) in 2.6.27, but it's creating something of a
> logjam with other patches in -mm and linux-next.
> 
> Andrew suggested introducing "down_try" as a wrapper now, to make
> the transition easier.

The transition to WHAT? To crap?

There is no need to introduce yet another temporary thing just to make 
things even _more_ confusing.

Yeah, I'm grumpy. I'm always pretty grumpy, but I'm trying to go through 
some backlog where I had been going "hmm, why would I do this", and this 
one wasn't the only one where my reaction was "if I pull/apply this, the 
end result is worse".

Guys, some quality control and critical thinking, please.

			Linus

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-08-01 17:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-29  0:15 Rusty Russell
2008-07-29  0:27 ` Paul Menage
2008-07-29 13:01   ` Rusty Russell
2008-07-29 16:21     ` Randy Dunlap
2008-07-29 23:56       ` Rusty Russell
2008-08-01 17:26     ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2008-08-01 17:40       ` Andrew Morton
2008-08-01 18:22         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-03  8:33       ` Rusty Russell
2008-08-03 13:07         ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-08-03 17:33         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-03 17:35           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-04  3:28             ` Rusty Russell
2008-08-04  5:53               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-04  7:57                 ` Rusty Russell
2008-08-04  8:45                   ` Alan Cox
2008-08-04 11:43                     ` Rusty Russell

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