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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Paul Menage <menage@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>,
	"Randy.Dunlap" <rdunlap@xenotime.net>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Introduce down_try() so we can move away from down_trylock()
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:22:12 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0808011118560.3277@nehalem.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080801104046.e9e8d6fd.akpm@linux-foundation.org>



On Fri, 1 Aug 2008, Andrew Morton wrote:

> > 
> 
> The naming is pretty sad, but the inconsistent return value from
> down_trylock() drives me batshit.  It means that every time I ever look
> at any sort of trylock call I need to go back to the definition site to
> work out if it's the one which returns true or if it's the one which
> returns false.
> 
> It would be good to get that fixed.  And if we _do_ want to fix it, I
> don't see any alternative to creating a new function.

The alternative is to just get rid of "down_trylock()" entirely. Creatign 
a shadow function with a different return value is just going to confuse 
people even more than the current situation.

That's why I pointed out that all the current users (apart from the 
special console usage) really do look like prime candidates to just 
convert to mutexes.

Of course, regardless, _some_ of those have actually taken the 
down_trylock semantics. See

	#define usb_trylock_device(udev)    down_trylock(&(udev)->dev.sem)

so nothing gets rid of that ;)

But at least it should be possible to replace something like half the 
current users of down_trylock() by just teh trivial conversion to mutexes. 
Which would be a good thing regardless.

			Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-01 18:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-29  0:15 Rusty Russell
2008-07-29  0:27 ` Paul Menage
2008-07-29 13:01   ` Rusty Russell
2008-07-29 16:21     ` Randy Dunlap
2008-07-29 23:56       ` Rusty Russell
2008-08-01 17:26     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-01 17:40       ` Andrew Morton
2008-08-01 18:22         ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2008-08-03  8:33       ` Rusty Russell
2008-08-03 13:07         ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-08-03 17:33         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-03 17:35           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-04  3:28             ` Rusty Russell
2008-08-04  5:53               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-04  7:57                 ` Rusty Russell
2008-08-04  8:45                   ` Alan Cox
2008-08-04 11:43                     ` Rusty Russell

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