From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Larry Finger <Larry.Finger@lwfinger.net>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
Alok Kataria <akataria@vmware.com>, Michael Buesch <mb@bu3sch.de>
Subject: Re: Regression in 2.6.27 caused by commit bfc0f59
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 20:18:47 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0809012015160.12958@nehalem.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0809020033450.3243@apollo.tec.linutronix.de>
On Tue, 2 Sep 2008, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>
> We had the same problem versus the local APIC timer calibration, which
> had basically the same algorithm as the TSC one and we changed it to
> look at the PMTimer as well in the days where we debugged the initial
> wreckage caused by the nohz/highres changes.
Hmm.
So then how would you discover when it's reliable and when it's not? Just
hardcode it for certain machines?
One alternative might be to do the same "detect if it's SMM code by seeing
how long the read takes" for the PIT reads themselves. Right now the code
does it for the HPET timer read and for the PM_TIMER reads, but _not_ for
the PIT status register reads.
> How do you prevent the SMM brain damage, when it hits 3 times in a row ?
Well, the biggest problem is actually _detection_.
We have three different timers, and they all have their own problems. How
do you reliably detect which one to use? The PM_TIMER clearly is _not_
always the answer here, but the code just assumes it is!
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-09-02 3:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-08-31 22:54 Larry Finger
2008-09-01 11:14 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-01 15:37 ` Larry Finger
2008-09-01 17:49 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-01 17:44 ` Larry Finger
2008-09-01 18:31 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-01 19:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-01 20:07 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-01 21:30 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-01 22:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-01 22:33 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-01 22:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-01 23:24 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-02 6:37 ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-02 12:21 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-01 22:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-01 23:16 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-02 3:18 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2008-09-02 3:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-02 4:54 ` Larry Finger
2008-09-02 9:17 ` Alan Cox
2008-09-02 12:15 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-02 15:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-02 18:14 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-02 18:41 ` Alok Kataria
2008-09-02 21:16 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-02 18:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-02 21:13 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-02 22:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-02 23:10 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-03 1:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-02 22:54 ` [PATCH] Fix TSC calibration issues Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-03 2:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-03 9:11 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-04 1:14 ` Alok Kataria
2008-09-04 2:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-04 3:16 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-04 3:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-04 4:10 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-04 4:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-04 4:27 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-04 4:25 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-09-04 4:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-04 5:09 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-09-04 1:18 ` [PATCH] Change warning message in TSC calibration Alok Kataria
2008-09-03 2:51 ` [PATCH] Fix TSC calibration issues Larry Finger
2008-09-03 4:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-03 4:34 ` Larry Finger
2008-09-05 13:45 ` Regression in 2.6.27 caused by commit bfc0f59 Mark Lord
2008-09-02 17:17 ` Bill Davidsen
2008-09-01 19:36 ` Larry Finger
2008-09-01 20:09 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-01 20:23 ` Larry Finger
2008-09-01 20:45 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-01 18:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-01 19:08 ` Thomas Gleixner
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