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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Alok Kataria <akataria@vmware.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Larry Finger <Larry.Finger@lwfinger.net>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>, Michael Buesch <mb@bu3sch.de>,
	Dan Hecht <dhecht@vmware.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fix TSC calibration issues
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 21:53:35 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0809032141160.3378@nehalem.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080904042542.GH19337@1wt.eu>



On Thu, 4 Sep 2008, Willy Tarreau wrote:
>
> Basically, I would do this :
> 
>     pit1 = readpit();
>     while (readpit() == pit1);
>     t1 = rdtsc(); // precise beginning of tick 0
>     while (readpit() != pit1 - 5000);
>     t2 = rdtsc(); // precise beginning of tick 5000

There's a few caveats here:

 - the "readpit()" has to read without actually latching the value

   latching the PIT value will stop counting.

 - and all the docs say that you have to be careful about reading the PIT 
   without latching it because the two 8-bit accesses aren't atomic.

so the above will work in practice, but there are dangers.

The best way to fix most of the dangers is probably to only care about the 
*high* byte, so that it doesn't matter if the low byte doesn't match the 
high byte.

So you could probably change your version to wait for 4096 cycles (a 
change of 16 in the high byte):

	static unsigned char read_pit_msb(void)
	{
		/* Read but throw away the LSB */
		inb(0x42);
		return inb(0x42);
	}

	..
	/* PIT ch2: square wave, full 16-bit count */
	outb(0xb6, 0x43);
	outb(0, 0x42);
	outb(0, 0x42);
	..

	unsigned char pit = read_pit_msb();
	/* Wait until the MSB changes */
	while (read_pit_msb() == pit1);
	t1 = rdtsc();
	while ((unsigned char) (pit - read_pit_msb()) < 9);
	t2 = rdtsc();

and it might work out ok without explicit latching, and without having to 
worry about low/high bytes being out of sync.

> If someone wants to test this, I'd be interested in the number of
> ticks required to get a good accuracy, I bet that even with a few
> hundred ones it's already precise by a few ppm (about the precision
> of the input clock in fact).

I actually tested a patch with a counter value of just 1024, and I got the 
right answer. 

But if the busy loops aren't busy (due to MSI or virtualization), then all 
those things fly out the window.

			Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-04  4:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-31 22:54 Regression in 2.6.27 caused by commit bfc0f59 Larry Finger
2008-09-01 11:14 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-01 15:37   ` Larry Finger
2008-09-01 17:49     ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-01 17:44   ` Larry Finger
2008-09-01 18:31     ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-01 19:10       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-01 20:07         ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-01 21:30           ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-01 22:02           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-01 22:33             ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-01 22:56               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-01 23:24                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-02  6:37                   ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-02 12:21                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-01 22:16           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-01 23:16             ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-02  3:18               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-02  3:35                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-02  4:54                   ` Larry Finger
2008-09-02  9:17                   ` Alan Cox
2008-09-02 12:15                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-02 15:09                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-02 18:14                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-02 18:41                         ` Alok Kataria
2008-09-02 21:16                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-02 18:42                         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-02 21:13                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-02 22:21                             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-02 23:10                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-03  1:49                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-02 22:54                           ` [PATCH] Fix TSC calibration issues Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-03  2:14                             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-03  9:11                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-04  1:14                                 ` Alok Kataria
2008-09-04  2:56                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-04  3:16                                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-04  3:59                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-04  4:10                                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-04  4:20                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-04  4:27                                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-04  4:25                                         ` Willy Tarreau
2008-09-04  4:53                                           ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2008-09-04  5:09                                             ` Willy Tarreau
2008-09-04  1:18                                 ` [PATCH] Change warning message in TSC calibration Alok Kataria
2008-09-03  2:51                             ` [PATCH] Fix TSC calibration issues Larry Finger
2008-09-03  4:00                               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-03  4:34                                 ` Larry Finger
2008-09-05 13:45                       ` Regression in 2.6.27 caused by commit bfc0f59 Mark Lord
2008-09-02 17:17                 ` Bill Davidsen
2008-09-01 19:36       ` Larry Finger
2008-09-01 20:09         ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-01 20:23           ` Larry Finger
2008-09-01 20:45             ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-01 18:42     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-01 19:08       ` Thomas Gleixner

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