From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: "\"C. Bergström\"" <cbergstrom@pathscale.com>
Cc: Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Ben Skeggs <skeggsb@gmail.com>,
Dave Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>,
dri-devel@lists.sf.net
Subject: Re: [git pull] drm request 3
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 07:18:28 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1003050714380.3788@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B90AFF3.3030100@pathscale.com>
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, "C. Bergström" wrote:
>
> staging != stable
This really is being repeated, over and over. But it's irrelevant.
It's irrelevant because it's just a bad _excuse_.
That driver is used in production environments. That's _reality_. The
whole "staging" thing is nothing more than a meaningless word.
And no, "staging" wasn't why it was merged. The reason it was merged was
that very same "reality".
So every time somebody mentions staging as an argument, he's missing the
whole effing point.
It also misses the point that the issues I've tried to bring up
(bisection, testability) are real _technical_ arguments. Again, waving
that "staging" flag is just stupid. It has nothing to do with the
technical arguments, or with the reality of the situation.
In other words, it's not just an excuse, it's a _meaningless_ excuse. It's
a red herring. It's irrelevant to the issue.
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-03-05 15:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 147+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-03-02 23:56 Dave Airlie
2010-03-04 18:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 18:27 ` Matt Turner
2010-03-04 18:36 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-03-04 18:39 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-03-04 18:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 18:56 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-03-04 19:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 19:25 ` Dave Airlie
2010-03-04 20:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 22:06 ` Dave Airlie
2010-03-05 0:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 0:28 ` Ben Skeggs
2010-03-05 0:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 0:56 ` Luc Verhaegen
2010-03-05 1:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 1:16 ` Luc Verhaegen
2010-03-05 1:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 1:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 1:28 ` Dave Airlie
2010-03-05 5:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 5:22 ` Dave Airlie
2010-03-05 5:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 5:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 1:19 ` Upstream first policy Kyle McMartin
2010-03-05 1:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 2:00 ` [git pull] drm request 3 Tony Luck
2010-03-05 20:34 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-03-05 6:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-05 7:06 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-03-05 7:17 ` "C. Bergström"
2010-03-05 7:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-05 15:18 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2010-03-05 7:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-05 7:58 ` Dave Airlie
2010-03-05 8:16 ` Stephane Marchesin
2010-03-05 10:00 ` Making Xorg easier to test (was Re: [git pull] drm request 3) Carlos R. Mafra
2010-03-05 12:54 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-03-05 15:22 ` Matt Turner
2010-03-05 15:41 ` Daniel Stone
2010-03-05 15:49 ` Making Xorg easier to test David Miller
2010-03-05 16:03 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 16:06 ` Daniel Stone
2010-03-05 17:50 ` Xavier Bestel
2010-03-05 17:54 ` David Miller
2010-03-05 18:02 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-03-05 18:05 ` David Miller
2010-03-05 15:53 ` Making Xorg easier to test (was Re: [git pull] drm request 3) Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 16:11 ` Daniel Stone
2010-03-05 16:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-08 8:57 ` Daniel Stone
2010-03-05 16:26 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-03-05 13:55 ` [git pull] drm request 3 Luc Verhaegen
2010-03-05 16:21 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-03-05 12:38 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 14:37 ` David Miller
2010-03-05 14:46 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-03-05 18:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-05 15:09 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 15:11 ` David Miller
2010-03-05 15:17 ` Daniel Stone
2010-03-05 15:26 ` David Miller
2010-03-05 15:40 ` Daniel Stone
2010-03-05 15:48 ` David Miller
2010-03-05 16:02 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 16:05 ` David Miller
2010-03-05 17:58 ` Younes Manton
2010-03-05 16:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 16:23 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 16:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 17:04 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 17:19 ` tytso
2010-03-05 16:04 ` Daniel Stone
2010-03-05 16:06 ` David Miller
2010-03-05 16:31 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 17:36 ` Jerome Glisse
2010-03-05 16:46 ` tytso
2010-03-05 19:38 ` Corbin Simpson
2010-03-05 21:01 ` Corbin Simpson
2010-03-05 21:51 ` tytso
2010-03-05 23:50 ` Tilman Schmidt
2010-03-05 17:23 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <hmra63$898$1@xyzzy.farnsworth.org>
2010-03-06 6:17 ` Dale Farnsworth
2010-03-06 17:21 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-03-05 15:56 ` Luca Barbieri
2010-03-05 16:13 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 16:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 16:38 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 20:59 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-03-05 16:25 ` Luca Barbieri
2010-03-05 15:42 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 16:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 17:42 ` Jeff Garzik
2010-03-05 19:11 ` Justin P. mattock
2010-03-04 19:33 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-03-04 19:12 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-03-04 18:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 18:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 18:50 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-03-04 18:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 19:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 19:04 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-03-04 19:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 19:25 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-03-04 19:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 19:53 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-03-04 20:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 20:46 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-03-04 20:57 ` Stephane Marchesin
2010-03-04 22:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 23:03 ` Dave Airlie
2010-03-04 23:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 23:27 ` Michel Dänzer
2010-03-04 23:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 23:35 ` Dave Airlie
2010-03-04 23:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 0:24 ` Ed Tomlinson
2010-03-05 0:24 ` Kyle McMartin
2010-03-04 23:28 ` Dave Airlie
2010-03-04 23:05 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-03-05 12:26 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-04 22:28 ` Adam Jackson
2010-03-04 23:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 23:14 ` Stephane Marchesin
2010-03-05 12:29 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 16:18 ` Adam Jackson
2010-03-04 19:32 ` Jeff Garzik
2010-03-04 22:18 ` Adam Jackson
2010-03-04 22:21 ` Jeff Garzik
2010-03-04 22:59 ` Adam Jackson
2010-03-05 11:24 ` Jeff Garzik
2010-03-05 15:46 ` Adam Jackson
2010-03-05 1:47 ` Robert Hancock
2010-03-05 12:21 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 19:30 ` Eric Anholt
2010-03-05 20:39 ` Luca Barbieri
2010-03-06 15:23 ` Sergio Monteiro Basto
2010-03-06 17:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-06 19:06 ` Sergio Monteiro Basto
2010-03-06 19:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-06 20:49 ` tytso
2010-03-06 20:52 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-06 22:38 ` tytso
2010-03-04 21:21 ` Maarten Maathuis
2010-03-04 21:22 ` Maarten Maathuis
2010-03-04 21:27 ` Maarten Maathuis
2010-03-05 22:18 Jonas Ritz
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