From: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
Cc: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>, Li Zhe <lizhe.67@bytedance.com>,
Joshua Hahn <joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, ljs@kernel.org, liam@infradead.org,
rppt@kernel.org, mhocko@suse.com, corbet@lwn.net,
skhan@linuxfoundation.org, ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com,
apopple@nvidia.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/numa_balancing: allow migrate on protnone reference with MPOL_WEIGHTED_INTERLEAVE policy
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2026 09:26:03 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ar5eC22VfSFlMw3W@gourry-fedora-PF4VCD3F> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <280965b2-c6eb-4f01-a0ac-c4fb7e518f97@kernel.org>
On Thu, Oct 01, 2026 at 12:54:22PM +0200, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> > If this is a initial-fill problem, can userspace set weighted interleave
> > initially? The program or harness can observe memory usage of the program
> > or related NUMA nodes and switch the policy to numa balancing via
> > set_mempolicy() or mbind() without MPOL_MF_MOVE after certain threshold
> > is met?
>
> You mean: use the weighted policy initially and then switch to a NUMA-balancing
> one which doesn't involve the weights anymore?
>
> That makes more sense to me. Although I struggle to see why an effectively
> "let's put random memory on slow and others at hot" is a good starting point to
> later let if be fixed up by actual balancing/tiering.
>
> It all sounds a bit hackish. :)
>
It is a bit of a non-combo (Nonbo). You're using weighted interleave
with the intent of spreading out the bandwidth utilization (and maybe to
offset some reclaim behavior? *shrug*) but then undo all the placement
with tiering.
But, in defense of the hackery - I have seen strategies like this work
to optimize startup times and then let tiering optimize runtime. Phased
execution gets funky like that.
~Gregory
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-01 13:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-30 7:26 Li Zhe
2026-09-30 8:43 ` Gregory Price
2026-09-30 8:59 ` Li Zhe
2026-09-30 9:11 ` Gregory Price
2026-09-30 10:59 ` Joshua Hahn
2026-09-30 11:22 ` Li Zhe
2026-09-30 12:25 ` Gregory Price
2026-10-02 7:25 ` Li Zhe
2026-09-30 11:26 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-30 11:52 ` Li Zhe
2026-09-30 12:11 ` Joshua Hahn
2026-09-30 14:02 ` Li Zhe
2026-09-30 14:50 ` Gregory Price
2026-09-30 15:10 ` Zi Yan
2026-10-01 10:54 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-01 11:18 ` Zi Yan
2026-10-01 13:26 ` Gregory Price [this message]
2026-10-02 7:56 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-02 8:15 ` Li Zhe
2026-10-02 12:05 ` Gregory Price
2026-09-30 12:03 ` Gregory Price
2026-09-30 12:32 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-30 13:40 ` Gregory Price
2026-10-01 10:55 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
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