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From: Mostafa Saleh <smostafa@google.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev,
	iommu@lists.linux.dev, catalin.marinas@arm.com, will@kernel.org,
	maz@kernel.org, oliver.upton@linux.dev, joey.gouly@arm.com,
	suzuki.poulose@arm.com, yuzenghui@huawei.com, joro@8bytes.org,
	mark.rutland@arm.com, qperret@google.com, tabba@google.com,
	vdonnefort@google.com, sebastianene@google.com, keirf@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 04/25] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Move IDR parsing to common functions
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2026 12:18:39 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <arPDn5c815X72PSF@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260923115257.GC2545495@nvidia.com>

On Wed, Sep 23, 2026 at 08:52:57AM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2026 at 10:09:06AM +0000, Mostafa Saleh wrote:
> > > > +	if (coherent && !disable_msipolling &&
> > > > +	    smmu->features & ARM_SMMU_FEAT_MSI)
> > > > +		smmu->options |= ARM_SMMU_OPT_MSIPOLL;
> > > 
> > > Will pKVM ever use MSIPOLL?
> > 
> > No, this version does not support MSI and hides it.
> > And this check can not be moved because disable_msipolling is a
> > module_param.
> 
> Could you move the above if into the shared area and have the callers
> mask off options if they don't want it?

Sure, I can move it and pass disable_polling as an arg which the
hypervisor will set to true.

> 
> > > > +	if (smmu->features & ARM_SMMU_FEAT_HYP &&
> > > > +	    cpus_have_cap(ARM64_HAS_VIRT_HOST_EXTN))
> > > > +		smmu->features |= ARM_SMMU_FEAT_E2H;
> > > 
> > > Why is ARM64_HAS_VIRT_HOST_EXTN left behind?
> > > 
> > 
> > cpus_have_cap() can not be used in the hypervisor.
> > Also, ARM_SMMU_FEAT_E2H is not exactly FEAT_HYP. As it defines the
> > world the translation lives in based on the kernel EL.
> 
> But don't you need this FEAT to issue invalidations correctly?
> pkvm never issues a S1 invalidation?

No, STRW is enforced to zero (NS-EL1) with pKVM as the kernel must be
running in EL1.

pKVM will issue S1 CMDQ_OP_TLBI_NH_ALL to invalidate all of S1
after S2 changes and invalidations.

> 
> > With pKVM at EL2 ARM64_HAS_VIRT_HOST_EXTN is always true anyway.
> 
> > And the hypervisor never owns a page table itself, so it never
> > checks this feature.
> 
> ? I thought the whole point of this was for pkvm to own a S2?

By own I mean "it's own translation regime" as if the hypervisor wants
to do DMA itself (synonym to EL2-S1 translation) in that case the
hypervisor will have a different STRW and use the E2H stuff. But that
never happens, the hypervsior populates S2 to enforce isolation of the
host but it never uses it itself.

> 
> Maybe same as I suggested for MSIPOLL, set the FEAT and mask it later
> if it can't be used. If KVM implicitly knows it has
> ARM64_HAS_VIRT_HOST_EXTN then it should operate with ARM_SMMU_FEAT_E2H
> set.
> 

As I replied to Nicolin, the problem here is not the FEAT being used or
not, it is that cpus_have_cap() can not be used in the hypervisor.

I think this can be replaced with cpus_have_final_cap() which should be
the same and then move this code also.

> > Otherwise, I think we can move this check and use cpus_have_final_cap()
> > instead as it can be used in the hypervisor.
> 
> Or that, I don't know the difference

I will try that for the next version.

Thanks,
Mostafa

> 
> Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-23 12:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-22 13:12 [PATCH v8 00/25] KVM: arm64: SMMUv3 driver for pKVM (trap and emulate) Mostafa Saleh
2026-09-22 13:12 ` [PATCH v8 01/25] KVM: arm64: Donate MMIO to the hypervisor Mostafa Saleh
2026-09-22 13:12 ` [PATCH v8 02/25] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Move Queue and STE functions to header Mostafa Saleh
2026-09-22 18:23   ` Nicolin Chen
2026-09-22 13:12 ` [PATCH v8 03/25] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Introduce RangeInval encoding helpers Mostafa Saleh
2026-09-22 18:45   ` Nicolin Chen
2026-09-22 13:12 ` [PATCH v8 04/25] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Move IDR parsing to common functions Mostafa Saleh
2026-09-22 19:45   ` Nicolin Chen
2026-09-22 21:48     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-23 10:13       ` Mostafa Saleh
2026-09-23 11:55         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-23 12:21           ` Mostafa Saleh
2026-09-23 10:09     ` Mostafa Saleh
2026-09-23 11:52       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-23 12:18         ` Mostafa Saleh [this message]
2026-09-23 12:34           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-22 13:12 ` [PATCH v8 05/25] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Move hitless machinery to common code Mostafa Saleh
2026-09-22 19:59   ` Nicolin Chen
2026-09-23 10:15     ` Mostafa Saleh
2026-09-22 13:12 ` [PATCH v8 06/25] KVM: arm64: iommu: Introduce IOMMU driver infrastructure Mostafa Saleh
2026-09-22 13:12 ` [PATCH v8 07/25] KVM: arm64: iommu: Shadow host stage-2 page table Mostafa Saleh
2026-09-22 13:12 ` [PATCH v8 08/25] KVM: arm64: iommu: Add memory pool Mostafa Saleh
2026-09-22 13:12 ` [PATCH v8 09/25] KVM: arm64: iommu: Support DABT for IOMMU Mostafa Saleh
2026-09-22 13:12 ` [PATCH v8 10/25] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Add SMMUv3 driver Mostafa Saleh
2026-09-22 22:39   ` Nicolin Chen
2026-09-23 10:30     ` Mostafa Saleh
2026-09-22 13:12 ` [PATCH v8 11/25] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Add the kernel driver Mostafa Saleh
2026-09-23  0:22   ` Nicolin Chen
2026-09-23 11:52     ` Mostafa Saleh
2026-09-22 13:12 ` [PATCH v8 12/25] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Probe SMMU HW Mostafa Saleh
2026-09-23  1:43   ` Nicolin Chen
2026-09-23 12:03     ` Mostafa Saleh
2026-09-22 13:12 ` [PATCH v8 13/25] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Add MMIO emulation Mostafa Saleh
2026-09-22 13:12 ` [PATCH v8 14/25] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Shadow the command queue Mostafa Saleh
2026-09-22 13:12 ` [PATCH v8 15/25] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Add CMDQ functions Mostafa Saleh
2026-09-22 13:12 ` [PATCH v8 16/25] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Emulate CMDQ for host Mostafa Saleh
2026-09-22 13:12 ` [PATCH v8 17/25] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Shadow stream table Mostafa Saleh
2026-09-22 13:12 ` [PATCH v8 18/25] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Shadow STEs Mostafa Saleh
2026-09-22 13:12 ` [PATCH v8 19/25] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Share other queues Mostafa Saleh
2026-09-22 13:12 ` [PATCH v8 20/25] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Emulate GBPA Mostafa Saleh
2026-09-22 13:12 ` [PATCH v8 21/25] iommu/io-pgtable-arm: Support io-pgtable-arm in the hypervisor Mostafa Saleh
2026-09-22 13:12 ` [PATCH v8 22/25] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Shadow the CPU stage-2 page table Mostafa Saleh
2026-09-22 13:12 ` [PATCH v8 23/25] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Invalidate the SMMU TLBs Mostafa Saleh
2026-09-22 13:12 ` [PATCH v8 24/25] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Enable nesting Mostafa Saleh
2026-09-22 13:12 ` [PATCH v8 25/25] KVM: arm64: Add documentation for pKVM DMA isolation Mostafa Saleh
2026-09-22 18:07 ` [PATCH v8 00/25] KVM: arm64: SMMUv3 driver for pKVM (trap and emulate) Nicolin Chen
2026-09-23  8:52   ` Mostafa Saleh

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