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From: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>
To: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>
Cc: Fenghua Yu <fenghuay@nvidia.com>,
	Maciej Wieczor-Retman <maciej.wieczor-retman@intel.com>,
	Peter Newman <peternewman@google.com>,
	James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
	Babu Moger <babu.moger@amd.com>,
	"Drew Fustini" <dfustini@baylibre.com>,
	Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>, Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>,
	David E Box <david.e.box@intel.com>, <x86@kernel.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <patches@lists.linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v12 15/25] x86,fs/resctrl: Handle systems where AET is the only resource
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2026 11:02:24 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ara3MJ50n2y63dYm@agluck-desk3> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dc052810-8e63-4bf0-8056-59ce869b3d52@intel.com>

Hi Reinette,

On Fri, Sep 25, 2026 at 09:39:13AM -0700, Reinette Chatre wrote:
> Hi Tony,
> 
> On 9/25/26 8:50 AM, Luck, Tony wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 25, 2026 at 07:37:20AM -0700, Reinette Chatre wrote:
> >> Hi Tony,
> >>
> >> On 9/24/26 5:06 PM, Luck, Tony wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2026 at 01:41:48PM -0700, Reinette Chatre wrote:
> >>>> On 9/16/26 4:13 PM, Tony Luck wrote:
> >>
> >>>>> @@ -1001,27 +1001,29 @@ static __init bool get_rdt_mon_resources(void)
> >>>>>  
> >>>>>  	/* Any of the L3 monitoring features? */
> >>>>>  	if (!cpu_feature_enabled(X86_FEATURE_CQM_LLC))
> >>>>> -		return false;
> >>>>> +		goto skip_l3_feature_checks;
> >>>>
> >>>> This goto looks unnecessary. Why not just "return true"? Even so, this 
> >>>> also changes behavior from the previous version in a way that is not clear
> >>>> to me. I was expecting this to consider the number of RMIDs supported by the system,
> >>>> now that this function added:
> >>>>
> >>>> 	pqr_assoc_num_rmid = cpuid_ebx(0xf) + 1;
> >>>>
> >>>> Should this be:
> >>>>
> >>>> 	if (!cpu_feature_enabled(X86_FEATURE_CQM_LLC))
> >>>> 		return pqr_assoc_num_rmid > 1;
> >>>>
> >>>> Although ... looking at this closer it does look strange for pqr_assoc_num_rmid
> >>>> to be 1, thus reflecting that the system supports one RMID, when zero may be more
> >>>> accurate?
> >>>
> >>> If X86_FEATURE_CQM_LLC is set, then monitoring is supported and the system
> >>> must support at least one RMID. I don't see a need to insist on more than one
> >>> RMID as a precondition for using resctrl. It wouldn't be super interesting
> >>
> >> My suggestion was not to use "more than one RMID as a precondition". By copying the
> >> relevant code not shown in the hunk
> >>
> >> 	pqr_assoc_num_rmid = cpuid_ebx(0xf) + 1;
> >>
> >> I aimed to highlight that if the system returns zero then pqr_assoc_num_rmid
> >> will contain 1. The "pqr_assoc_num_rmid > 1" is thus not a check for "more
> >> than one RMID" but instead a check that the system did not return zero.
> > 
> > Architecturally the cpuid_ebx(0xf) can legally return 0 meaning that the
> > system supports one RMID. Here's the description from SDM Volume 1 Table
> > 21-38 "Leaf 0FH.00H Intel® Resource Director Technology (Intel® RDT) Monitoring":
> > 
> > 	Register	Field Name	Description
> > 	EBX[31:0]	MAX_RMID	Maximum range (zero-based) of RMID within
> > 					this physical processor of all types.
> > 
> > This code path is only executed if the test for X86_FEATURE_CQM
> > succeeded. That should guarantee that leaf 0xF exists[1]. There's
> > no way for leaf 0xF to indicate zero RMIDs because the MAX_RMID
> > field gives a zero-based result.
> > 
> > So a test for "pqr_assoc_num_rmid > 1" really is checking that two or
> > more RMIDs are supported.
> > 
> > If you want resctrl to refuse to support a crazy system with only one
> > RMID, then the check should as soon as pqr_assoc_num_rmid is set:
> > 
> > 	pqr_assoc_num_rmid = cpuid_ebx(0xf) + 1;
> > 
> > 	/* Systems with only one RMID can't usefully support resctrl */
> > 	if (pqr_assoc_num_rmid == 1)
> > 		return false;
> 
> Up to you. I already highlighted in
> 
> 	https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/39582d24-0fc1-4d5e-bc05-01c2f29ddfb1@intel.com/
> 
> that my goal is simply to align this version to the previous 
> 
> 	https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20260831174421.13921-14-tony.luck@intel.com/
> 
> that used 
> 
> 	return resctrl_arch_system_max_rmid_idx() > 0
> 
> to determine if AET can supported.
> 
> Ignoring this simple question in
> 
> 	https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/arW6xlQWVWkixiWe@agluck-desk3/
> 
> you instead use the SDM to argue against me for some reason.

My apologies. I should have included in the version change log from v11
to v12 that I replaced "resctrl_arch_system_max_rmid_idx() > 0" because
it is the wrong thing to do.

I'll try to be more complete in the change logs.

-Tony

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-25 18:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-16 23:12 [PATCH v12 00/25] Allow AET to use PMT as loadable module Tony Luck
2026-09-16 23:12 ` [PATCH v12 01/25] x86/cpufeatures: Add missing CQM feature dependency Tony Luck
2026-09-24 15:12   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-09-16 23:12 ` [PATCH v12 02/25] x86/resctrl: Check if monitoring features are supported Tony Luck
2026-09-24 15:13   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-09-16 23:12 ` [PATCH v12 03/25] x86/resctrl: Enumerate monitor features in rdt_get_l3_mon_config() Tony Luck
2026-09-24 15:15   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-09-16 23:12 ` [PATCH v12 04/25] x86/resctrl: Apply Intel MBM quirk from rdt_get_l3_mon_config() Tony Luck
2026-09-21 17:45   ` Babu Moger
2026-09-22 20:46     ` Luck, Tony
2026-09-24 15:23       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-09-24 15:17   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-09-16 23:13 ` [PATCH v12 05/25] x86/resctrl: Delete resctrl_cpu_detect() Tony Luck
2026-09-24 15:21   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-09-16 23:13 ` [PATCH v12 06/25] arm,x86,fs/resctrl: Replace architecture resctrl_arch_{alloc,mon}_capable() Tony Luck
2026-09-24 15:22   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-09-16 23:13 ` [PATCH v12 07/25] x86/resctrl: Update special case for Intel Haswell enumeration Tony Luck
2026-09-24 15:27   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-09-16 23:13 ` [PATCH v12 08/25] x86/resctrl: Delete rdt_alloc_capable and rdt_mon_capable Tony Luck
2026-09-24 15:28   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-09-16 23:13 ` [PATCH v12 09/25] fs/resctrl: Remove redundant calls to resctrl_{alloc,mon}_capable() Tony Luck
2026-09-21 17:45   ` Babu Moger
2026-09-22 20:33     ` Luck, Tony
2026-09-24 15:30   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-09-16 23:13 ` [PATCH v12 10/25] x86/resctrl: Honor rdt=perf option to force enable AET perf events Tony Luck
2026-09-24 15:29   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-09-16 23:13 ` [PATCH v12 11/25] fs/resctrl: Add interface to disable a monitor event Tony Luck
2026-09-24 15:31   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-09-16 23:13 ` [PATCH v12 12/25] arm,x86,fs/resctrl: Allocate maximum needed rmid_ptrs[] Tony Luck
2026-09-21 17:45   ` Babu Moger
2026-09-22  0:30     ` Reinette Chatre
2026-09-22 13:09       ` Babu Moger
2026-09-24 15:37   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-09-16 23:13 ` [PATCH v12 13/25] arm,x86,fs/resctrl: Allocate right size for L3 monitor arrays Tony Luck
2026-09-24 20:30   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-09-16 23:13 ` [PATCH v12 14/25] fs/resctrl: Rebuild free RMID list on each mount Tony Luck
2026-09-21 17:45   ` Babu Moger
2026-09-22 20:30     ` Luck, Tony
2026-09-22 22:58       ` Moger, Babu
2026-09-22 23:07         ` Luck, Tony
2026-09-23 13:21           ` Moger, Babu
2026-09-16 23:13 ` [PATCH v12 15/25] x86,fs/resctrl: Handle systems where AET is the only resource Tony Luck
2026-09-24 20:41   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-09-25  0:06     ` Luck, Tony
2026-09-25 14:37       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-09-25 15:50         ` Luck, Tony
2026-09-25 16:39           ` Reinette Chatre
2026-09-25 18:02             ` Luck, Tony [this message]
2026-09-16 23:13 ` [PATCH v12 16/25] x86/resctrl: Add PMT registration API for AET enumeration callbacks Tony Luck
2026-09-24 20:43   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-09-16 23:13 ` [PATCH v12 17/25] platform/x86/intel/pmt: Register enumeration functions with resctrl Tony Luck
2026-09-24 20:46   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-09-16 23:13 ` [PATCH v12 18/25] x86/resctrl: Use registered function pointers for AET enumeration Tony Luck
2026-09-24 20:49   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-09-16 23:13 ` [PATCH v12 19/25] arm,x86,fs/resctrl: Enumerate AET on every resctrl mount Tony Luck
2026-09-24 20:53   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-09-16 23:13 ` [PATCH v12 20/25] x86/resctrl: Enforce system RMID limit on AET Tony Luck
2026-09-24 20:55   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-09-16 23:13 ` [PATCH v12 21/25] x86/resctrl: Export interface to report telemetry unbind/remove Tony Luck
2026-09-16 23:13 ` [PATCH v12 22/25] platform/x86/intel/pmt: Inform resctrl when MMIO maps are being removed Tony Luck
2026-09-18 16:29   ` [PATCH 12 22/25 UPDATED] " Tony Luck
2026-09-24 20:55     ` Reinette Chatre
2026-09-16 23:13 ` [PATCH v12 23/25] x86/resctrl: Require 64-bit x86 for resctrl support Tony Luck
2026-09-24 20:57   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-09-16 23:13 ` [PATCH v12 24/25] x86/resctrl: Simplify Kconfig options for resctrl Tony Luck
2026-09-24 20:59   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-09-16 23:13 ` [PATCH v12 25/25] x86,fs/resctrl: Document telemetry mount timing caveat Tony Luck
2026-09-24 21:00   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-09-17 16:32 ` [PATCH v12 00/25] Allow AET to use PMT as loadable module Luck, Tony
2026-09-17 21:23   ` Luck, Tony

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