From: Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@pengutronix.de>
To: Kory Maincent <kory.maincent@bootlin.com>
Cc: netdev-bot+sashiko@kernel.org, github@szelinsky.de,
andrew+netdev@lunn.ch, davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@kernel.org,
kuba@kernel.org, pabeni@redhat.com, piotr.kubik@adtran.com,
saikrishnag@marvell.com, horms@kernel.org, kyle.swenson@est.tech,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
kernel@pengutronix.de, broonie@kernel.org, lgirdwood@gmail.com,
mazziesaccount@gmail.com, Marc Kleine-Budde <mkl@pengutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net 05/10] net: pse-pd: check the PI state under the lock when setting a power limit
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2026 07:40:44 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <atb-3EIJynaRwuwe@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bb8eaf92-2b5b-46a1-b39d-a29ae273a3b5@bootlin.com>
CCing regulator related folks.
On Mon, Oct 19, 2026 at 02:30:24PM +0200, Kory Maincent wrote:
>
> On 10/19/26 10:51, netdev-bot+sashiko@kernel.org wrote:
> > > previous_pw_allocated = pi->pw_allocated_mW;
> > > pw_diff = pw_req - previous_pw_allocated;
> > > if (!pw_diff) {
> >
> > [ ... ]
> >
> > > @@ -1908,21 +1920,17 @@ int pse_ethtool_set_pw_limit(struct pse_control *psec,
> > > /* Update power budget only in software power control case and
> > > * if a Power Device is powered.
> > > */
> > > - if (pse_pw_d_is_sw_pw_control(psec->pcdev,
> > > - psec->pcdev->pi[psec->id].pw_d) &&
> > > - psec->pcdev->pi[psec->id].admin_state_enabled &&
> > > - psec->pcdev->pi[psec->id].isr_pd_detected) {
> > > - ret = pse_pi_update_pw_budget(psec->pcdev, psec->id,
> > > - pw_limit, extack);
> > > - if (ret < 0)
> > > - return ret;
> > > - previous_pw_allocated = ret;
> > > - }
> > > + ret = pse_pi_update_pw_budget(psec->pcdev, psec->id, pw_limit,
> > > + &updated, extack);
> > > + if (ret < 0)
> > > + return ret;
> > > + previous_pw_allocated = ret;
> > > ret = regulator_set_current_limit(psec->ps, 0, uA);
> >
> > [Severity: Medium]
> > The scenario in the commit message, where budget is reserved for a port
> > that is no longer powered, looks closed now. But can the budget and the
> > hardware limit still drift apart in the other direction?
> >
> > The state check and the budget change now share one pcdev->lock critical
> > section. The hardware limit is still written in a separate one:
> >
> > pse_ethtool_set_pw_limit()
> > pse_pi_update_pw_budget() <- takes and drops pcdev->lock
> > regulator_set_current_limit()
> > pse_pi_set_current_limit() <- takes pcdev->lock again
> > ops->pi_set_pw_limit()
> >
> > The threaded pse_isr() only needs pcdev->lock, so it can run in between:
> >
> > CPU0 (ethtool set_pw_limit)
> > pse_pi_update_pw_budget()
> > sees isr_pd_detected == false
> > *updated = false, nothing reserved
> > mutex_unlock(&pcdev->lock)
> >
> > CPU1 (pse_isr, classification event)
> > pse_set_config_isr()
> > isr_pd_detected = true
> > _pse_pi_delivery_power_sw_pw_ctrl()
> > pw_req = min(pi_get_pw_req(), pi_get_pw_limit()) <- old hw limit
> > pse_pi_allocate_pw_budget(pcdev, id, pw_req, extack)
> > ops->pi_enable()
> >
> > CPU0
> > regulator_set_current_limit()
> > pse_pi_set_current_limit()
> > ops->pi_set_pw_limit() <- new, higher limit
>
> @Oleksij, Here is another example of an issue related to the PSE PI being a
> regulator provider.
>
> @Carlo, Kyle is working on a series that remove the support for a PSE PI
> being a regulator provider. We will see where it goes.
Removing the regulator provider support is a bad idea:
- We will end up implementing a poor man's regulator framework inside the
network subsystem. Networking folks will have to deal with physical constraints
already solved by the power management community, requiring a different mindset
and domain experience.
- We lose built-in regulator infrastructure: DT safety constraints
(regulator-max-microamp), over-current/under-voltage notifications, and
sysfs/debugfs (regulator_summary) visibility.
- The race above is just a lock scope issue across pcdev->lock and the
regulator call, not a flaw in the abstraction.
- Writing a custom power state machine in net/ will introduce more bugs than it
fixes - especially if we overestimate our ability to upstream complex custom
logic under LLM review supervision.
Let's fix the lock serialization instead of dropping the framework.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-20 5:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-18 8:23 [PATCH net 00/10] net: pse-pd: assorted lifetime and error-path fixes Carlo Szelinsky
2026-10-18 8:23 ` [PATCH net 01/10] net: pse-pd: size the notification kfifo after defaulting nr_lines Carlo Szelinsky
2026-10-19 9:22 ` Kory Maincent
2026-10-18 8:23 ` [PATCH net 02/10] net: pse-pd: fix module refcount leak in pse_control_get_internal() Carlo Szelinsky
2026-10-19 8:51 ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-10-19 19:56 ` Carlo Szelinsky
2026-10-19 9:31 ` Kory Maincent
2026-10-19 19:56 ` Carlo Szelinsky
2026-10-18 8:23 ` [PATCH net 03/10] net: pse-pd: do not keep a failed IRQ in pcdev->irq Carlo Szelinsky
2026-10-19 9:33 ` Kory Maincent
2026-10-18 8:23 ` [PATCH net 04/10] net: pse-pd: do not reach a freed PHY from the notification worker Carlo Szelinsky
2026-10-19 8:51 ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-10-19 19:56 ` Carlo Szelinsky
2026-10-18 8:23 ` [PATCH net 05/10] net: pse-pd: check the PI state under the lock when setting a power limit Carlo Szelinsky
2026-10-19 8:51 ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-10-19 12:30 ` Kory Maincent
2026-10-19 19:56 ` Carlo Szelinsky
2026-10-20 5:40 ` Oleksij Rempel [this message]
2026-10-19 19:56 ` Carlo Szelinsky
2026-10-18 8:23 ` [PATCH net 06/10] net: pse-pd: do not tie a shared power domain to its creator's devres Carlo Szelinsky
2026-10-19 8:51 ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-10-19 19:56 ` Carlo Szelinsky
2026-10-18 8:23 ` [PATCH net 07/10] net: pse-pd: pd692x0: release the manager power budget through devres Carlo Szelinsky
2026-10-19 12:45 ` Kory Maincent
2026-10-18 8:23 ` [PATCH net 08/10] net: pse-pd: pd692x0: defer probe while a manager supply is unresolved Carlo Szelinsky
2026-10-19 12:47 ` Kory Maincent
2026-10-18 8:23 ` [PATCH net 09/10] net: pse-pd: si3474: fix use-after-free in ancillary client error path Carlo Szelinsky
2026-10-19 12:50 ` Kory Maincent
2026-10-19 19:56 ` Carlo Szelinsky
2026-10-18 8:23 ` [PATCH net 10/10] net: pse-pd: reject a power limit whose current does not fit an int Carlo Szelinsky
2026-10-19 12:53 ` Kory Maincent
2026-10-19 19:56 ` Carlo Szelinsky
2026-10-18 23:32 ` [PATCH net 00/10] net: pse-pd: assorted lifetime and error-path fixes Ross Cawston
2026-10-19 19:56 ` Carlo Szelinsky
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