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From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Marcos Paulo de Souza <mpdesouza@suse.com>,
	Chris Down <chris@chrisdown.name>,
	Naveen Kumar Chaudhary <naveen.osdev@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 13/16] printk: Try to register each console as Braille first
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2026 12:33:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <au27JKkPAnhj26jI@pathway.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260929120546.328616-14-pmladek@suse.com>

On Tue 2026-09-29 14:05:43, Petr Mladek wrote:
> Braille consoles are unique: they can only be enabled via the command
> line and use the preferred console framework for initialization, yet
> they are never added to the console_list or associated with
> /dev/console. Because of this, the preferred_console variable remains
> unset when only a Braille console is requested.
> 
> Currently, try_enable_preferred_console() must be called even when
> "preferred_dev_console" variable is not set, just to catch these "hidden"
> Braille requests.
> 
> Refactor the logic by adding a parameter to try_enable_preferred_console()
> to explicitly handle Braille vs. non-Braille cases. It will eventually
> allow to skip try_enable_preferred_console() when there are no preferred
> consoles. This improves code robustness by ensuring the console
> setup is explicit and only performed once.
> 
> Note that _braille_register_console() is skipped when the given console
> driver has a match() callback and it succeeded. It means that it took
> over an early console and can't be used as a Braille console.
> 
> As a result try_enable_braille_console() might return success even
> when it did not enabled the console in the Braille mode. It is
> the reason why register_console() has to explicitly check whether
> CON_BRL flag was really set and could skip the further steps.
> 
> The refactoring even fixes two subtle bugs:
> 
> 1. When only the Braille console is defined on the command line,
>    the original code might attempt to enable the same console twice—once
>    as a default and once as a Braille console. This results in calling
>    the setup() callback twice and incorrectly setting the CON_CONSDEV flag.
> 
> 2. When the same console is defined on the command line using devname
>    and then as Braille console, for example:
> 
>       console=00:00:0.0,115200 console=brl,ttyS0,115200
> 
>    It would have two separate entries in preferred_consoles[] array.
> 
>    The 2nd (Braille) entry would be used when univ8250_console_init()
>    tries to register the generic "ttyS" console driver. Note that
>    the 1st entry still does not have defined the "name" entry at
>    this stage.
> 
>    The 1st non-Braille entry would be used later when serial8250_init()
>    registers all found devices, assigns "tty0" for the given "00:00:0.0"
>    devname and tries to register the same struct console once again.
> 
>    The original code would call newcon->setup() twice in this scenario.
>    It won't add the console into console_list only because the later
>    check in register_console() would detect CON_BRL flag set from
>    the 1st registration and return early.
> 
> --- a/kernel/printk/printk.c
> +++ b/kernel/printk/printk.c
> @@ -3995,7 +4012,7 @@ static int try_enable_preferred_console(struct console *newcon,
>  			if (newcon->index < 0)
>  				newcon->index = pc->index;
>  
> -			if (is_braille_console_preferred(pc))
> +			if (try_only_braille)
>  				return _braille_register_console(newcon, pc);
>  
>  			err = console_call_setup(newcon, pc->options);

From Sashiko AI:

| Does returning 0 here for a Braille match cause the console to lose its
| preferred status?
| 
| When newcon->match() succeeds, the loop falls through to:
| 
|         newcon->flags |= CON_ENABLED;
|         if (i == preferred_dev_console)
|             newcon->flags |= CON_CONSDEV;
|         return 0;
| 
| When returning 0 here after a successful newcon->match() during the
| try_only_braille phase, CON_CONSDEV is not set because preferred_dev_console
| is never assigned to a Braille entry.

This works as expected. The CON_CONSDEV flag is set here only when
the related preferred_consoles[i] entry was the latest added/updated
entry for a non-Braille console.

Note that there are more situations when the `preferred_dev_console`
is not registered, for example, when there is a typo, or when
the related HW is not available.

For this situation, the CON_CONSDEV flag is always assigned to the
1st registered console driver, see the commit 33225d7b0ac990
("printk: Correctly set CON_CONSDEV even when preferred console
was not registered").

[ ... ]

> @@ -4033,6 +4061,24 @@ static int try_enable_console(struct console *newcon)
>  {
>  	int err;
>  
> +	/*
> +	 * First, try to enable the console driver as a Braille console.
> +	 * It would have metadata in the preferred_consoles[] array.
> +	 * But it won't be counted as @preferred_console because
> +	 * it does not get printk() messages and is not associated
> +	 * with /dev/console.
> +	 *
> +	 * Note that it might succeed also when the driver has a match()
> +	 * callback and it took over a boot console. In this case,
> +	 * the driver will continue working as a classic non-Braille
> +	 * console.
> +	 */
> +	if (want_braille_console) {
> +		err = try_enable_braille_console(newcon);
> +		if (err != -ENOENT)
> +			return err;
> +	}

Sashiko AI wrote:

| If the user specified both a regular console and a Braille console
| (e.g. console=ttyS0 console=brl,uart,...), does this early return preempt
| the regular console entry from being evaluated?
| 
| If a driver matches the Braille entry and returns 0 without setting
| CON_CONSDEV, returning early here means the regular preferred console entries
| are skipped. This seems to break /dev/console routing, as the expected
| primary console never receives CON_CONSDEV.

The problem with CON_CONSDEV is basically the same as above.

But there is another interesting question whether the console driver
can be used as a classic printk console even it could not get enabled
as a Braille console. I mean whether, for example,
try_enable_default_console(newcon) would fail when
try_enable_braille_console(newcon) failed.

I could imagine that the driver might be usable and only the
VT integration failed. But the VT integration never fails,
see braille_register_console().

Also I think that we do not want to use this driver as a normal
console when it was configured to be used by the Braille console.

Best Regards,
Petr

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-11-06 11:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-29 12:05 [PATCH v5 00/16] printk: Clean up preferred console handling Petr Mladek
2026-09-29 12:05 ` [PATCH v5 01/16] printk: Rename struct console_cmdline to preferred_console Petr Mladek
2026-10-29  7:03   ` Chris Down
2026-11-03 15:16     ` Petr Mladek
2026-09-29 12:05 ` [PATCH v5 02/16] printk: Rename preferred_console to preferred_dev_console Petr Mladek
2026-09-29 12:05 ` [PATCH v5 03/16] printk: Cleanup _braille_(un)register_console() wrappers Petr Mladek
2026-09-29 12:05 ` [PATCH v5 04/16] printk: Separate code for adding/updating preferred console metadata Petr Mladek
2026-10-27 12:05   ` John Ogness
2026-11-03 15:57     ` Petr Mladek
2026-10-29  7:05   ` Chris Down
2026-11-03 16:12     ` Petr Mladek
2026-09-29 12:05 ` [PATCH v5 05/16] printk: Prefer the console either via name or devname exclusively Petr Mladek
2026-10-27 12:14   ` John Ogness
2026-10-29  7:06   ` Chris Down
2026-09-29 12:05 ` [PATCH v5 06/16] printk: Check that index is not defined when a console is preferred via devname Petr Mladek
2026-10-27 18:08   ` John Ogness
2026-10-29  7:07   ` Chris Down
2026-09-29 12:05 ` [PATCH v5 07/16] printk: Ensure consistent name and devname when updating preferred console Petr Mladek
2026-10-29  7:09   ` Chris Down
2026-11-03 17:08     ` Petr Mladek
2026-09-29 12:05 ` [PATCH v5 08/16] printk: Do not quietly ignore adding entry for a preferred console when there is no space Petr Mladek
2026-10-29  7:10   ` Chris Down
2026-10-29 16:23   ` John Ogness
2026-09-29 12:05 ` [PATCH v5 09/16] printk: Allow to override options via the command line Petr Mladek
2026-10-29  7:13   ` Chris Down
2026-10-30 17:04     ` John Ogness
2026-11-04 12:55     ` Petr Mladek
2026-09-29 12:05 ` [PATCH v5 10/16] printk: Allow to debug misuse of add_or_update_preferred_console() Petr Mladek
2026-10-29  7:13   ` Chris Down
2026-09-29 12:05 ` [PATCH v5 11/16] console/braille: Lock console->setup() call during the registration Petr Mladek
2026-10-29  7:15   ` Chris Down
2026-11-04 14:21     ` Petr Mladek
2026-09-29 12:05 ` [PATCH v5 12/16] printk: Separate code for enabling console Petr Mladek
2026-10-29  7:15   ` Chris Down
2026-09-29 12:05 ` [PATCH v5 13/16] printk: Try to register each console as Braille first Petr Mladek
2026-10-29  7:17   ` Chris Down
2026-11-05 17:13     ` Petr Mladek
2026-11-06 11:33   ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2026-09-29 12:05 ` [PATCH v5 14/16] printk: Do not set Braille console as preferred_console Petr Mladek
2026-10-29  7:19   ` Chris Down
2026-11-06 14:21     ` Petr Mladek
2026-09-29 12:05 ` [PATCH v5 15/16] printk: Modify try_enable_default_console() to return error/success Petr Mladek
2026-10-29  7:20   ` Chris Down
2026-09-29 12:05 ` [PATCH v5 16/16] printk: Try enable preferred consoles only when there are any Petr Mladek
2026-10-29  7:20   ` Chris Down

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