From: Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v3 03/13] rcu-tasks: Add a Tasks RCU implementation for reader-marked trampolines
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2026 16:35:19 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c51591e0e96c837bcd762c207e5e1869.josef@toxicpanda.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8fea176a-0ca0-4a70-8cf9-8240a22359e4@paulmck-laptop>
On Thu, 17 Sep 2026 08:40:10 -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 17, 2026 at 02:14:57PM +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > You're right. So we'll indeed need to reuse the deferred qs points here.
>
> Except this is getting a bit involved.
>
> Don't get me wrong, if Josef is happy to take this on, far be it from me
> to stand in his way. But if not, we should be willing to treat this
> optimization as a follow-on effort, whether by Josef or someone else.
Follow-on works for me. For what it's worth 03/13 is already fairly
close to what Frederic describes, just outside the core flavor: no
task-list scan (the GP waits per CPU for a pass through __schedule() or
an EQS), the irq-exit preemption path checks the interrupted IP and
queues the task as a holdout before the switch, and the holdout is keyed
on where the task was interrupted so nothing is needed from the
trampoline tail. Moving that IP check into the tick / rcu_exp_handler() /
deferred-QS paths and reusing the blocked-tasks list is something I'm
happy to look at once this has settled.
v4 will pick up Alexei's ask (reader emitted by the BPF JIT around the
fentry and fexit regions rather than in the glue) and the idle-CPU hole
Sashiko found.
Thanks,
Josef
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-17 16:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-15 13:17 [PATCH RFC v3 00/13] rcu-tasks: build Tasks RCU on Tasks Trace readers in trampolines Josef Bacik
2026-09-15 13:17 ` [PATCH RFC v3 01/13] entry: Pass pt_regs to irqentry_exit_cond_resched() Josef Bacik
2026-09-15 14:17 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-09-15 13:17 ` [PATCH RFC v3 02/13] rcu-tasks-trace: Inline rcu_read_lock_trace() and annotate inside the reader Josef Bacik
2026-09-15 14:17 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-09-15 13:17 ` [PATCH RFC v3 03/13] rcu-tasks: Add a Tasks RCU implementation for reader-marked trampolines Josef Bacik
2026-09-15 15:14 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-15 23:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-16 12:40 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-16 14:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-16 14:35 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-16 14:47 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-16 14:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-16 15:23 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-16 15:41 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-17 12:14 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-17 15:40 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-17 16:35 ` Josef Bacik [this message]
2026-09-17 16:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-17 18:45 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-17 19:25 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-17 20:31 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-17 20:20 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-15 13:17 ` [PATCH RFC v3 04/13] kprobes: Expose the optprobe jump window to Tasks RCU Josef Bacik
2026-09-15 13:17 ` [PATCH RFC v3 05/13] ftrace: Mark modules hosting direct-call trampolines for " Josef Bacik
2026-09-15 14:17 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-09-15 13:17 ` [PATCH RFC v3 06/13] bpf: Take a Tasks Trace reader in the trampoline glue Josef Bacik
2026-09-16 3:45 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-09-17 1:16 ` Josef Bacik
2026-09-17 2:24 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-09-15 13:17 ` [PATCH RFC v3 07/13] x86/ftrace: Take a Tasks Trace reader around ftrace_caller's call-out Josef Bacik
2026-09-15 13:17 ` [PATCH RFC v3 08/13] x86/kprobes: Take a Tasks Trace reader in the optprobe template Josef Bacik
2026-09-15 13:17 ` [PATCH RFC v3 09/13] arm64: ftrace: Take a Tasks Trace reader around ftrace_caller's call-out Josef Bacik
2026-09-15 13:17 ` [PATCH RFC v3 10/13] samples: ftrace: Make the direct-call trampolines Tasks Trace readers Josef Bacik
2026-09-15 13:17 ` [PATCH RFC v3 11/13] rcutorture: Make Tasks RCU readers Tasks Trace readers where required Josef Bacik
2026-09-15 13:17 ` [PATCH RFC v3 12/13] rcu-tasks-trace: Assert no reader is held on return to userspace Josef Bacik
2026-09-15 13:17 ` [PATCH RFC v3 13/13] x86, arm64: Build Tasks RCU on Tasks Trace readers in trampolines Josef Bacik
2026-09-15 14:17 ` bot+bpf-ci
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