From: Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>
To: Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@pengutronix.de>,
Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>
Cc: kernel@pengutronix.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC net-next v1 2/2] net. phy: dp83tg720: Add randomized polling intervals for unstable link detection
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 18:33:03 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <dabcacd6-6e51-489c-b8f1-bd104ac4186f@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241127131011.92800-2-o.rempel@pengutronix.de>
On 27.11.2024 14:10, Oleksij Rempel wrote:
> Address the limitations of the DP83TG720 PHY, which cannot reliably detect or
> report a stable link state. To handle this, the PHY must be periodically reset
> when the link is down. However, synchronized reset intervals between the PHY
> and its link partner can result in a deadlock, preventing the link from
> re-establishing.
>
Out of curiosity: This PHY isn't normally quirky, but completely broken.
Why would anybody use it?
> This change introduces a randomized polling interval when the link is down to
> desynchronize resets between link partners.
>
> Signed-off-by: Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@pengutronix.de>
> ---
> drivers/net/phy/dp83tg720.c | 76 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> 1 file changed, 76 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/drivers/net/phy/dp83tg720.c b/drivers/net/phy/dp83tg720.c
> index f56659d41b31..64c65454cf94 100644
> --- a/drivers/net/phy/dp83tg720.c
> +++ b/drivers/net/phy/dp83tg720.c
> @@ -4,12 +4,31 @@
> */
> #include <linux/bitfield.h>
> #include <linux/ethtool_netlink.h>
> +#include <linux/jiffies.h>
> #include <linux/kernel.h>
> #include <linux/module.h>
> #include <linux/phy.h>
> +#include <linux/random.h>
>
> #include "open_alliance_helpers.h"
>
> +/*
> + * DP83TG720S_POLL_ACTIVE_LINK - Polling interval in milliseconds when the link
> + * is active.
> + * DP83TG720S_POLL_NO_LINK_MIN - Minimum polling interval in milliseconds when
> + * the link is down.
> + * DP83TG720S_POLL_NO_LINK_MAX - Maximum polling interval in milliseconds when
> + * the link is down.
> + *
> + * These values are not documented or officially recommended by the vendor but
> + * were determined through empirical testing. They achieve a good balance in
> + * minimizing the number of reset retries while ensuring reliable link recovery
> + * within a reasonable timeframe.
> + */
> +#define DP83TG720S_POLL_ACTIVE_LINK 1000
> +#define DP83TG720S_POLL_NO_LINK_MIN 100
> +#define DP83TG720S_POLL_NO_LINK_MAX 1000
> +
> #define DP83TG720S_PHY_ID 0x2000a284
>
> /* MDIO_MMD_VEND2 registers */
> @@ -355,6 +374,11 @@ static int dp83tg720_read_status(struct phy_device *phydev)
> if (ret)
> return ret;
>
> + /* The sleep value is based on testing with the DP83TG720S-Q1
> + * PHY. The PHY needs some time to recover from a link loss.
> + */
What is the issue during this "time to recover"?
Is errata information available from the vendor?
> + msleep(600);
> +
> /* After HW reset we need to restore master/slave configuration.
> * genphy_c45_pma_baset1_read_master_slave() call will be done
> * by the dp83tg720_config_aneg() function.
> @@ -482,6 +506,57 @@ static int dp83tg720_probe(struct phy_device *phydev)
> return 0;
> }
>
> +/**
> + * dp83tg720_phy_get_next_update_time - Determine the next update time for PHY
> + * state
> + * @phydev: Pointer to the phy_device structure
> + *
> + * This function addresses a limitation of the DP83TG720 PHY, which cannot
> + * reliably detect or report a stable link state. To recover from such
> + * scenarios, the PHY must be periodically reset when the link is down. However,
> + * if the link partner also runs Linux with the same driver, synchronized reset
> + * intervals can lead to a deadlock where the link never establishes due to
> + * simultaneous resets on both sides.
> + *
> + * To avoid this, the function implements randomized polling intervals when the
> + * link is down. It ensures that reset intervals are desynchronized by
> + * introducing a random delay between a configured minimum and maximum range.
> + * When the link is up, a fixed polling interval is used to minimize overhead.
> + *
> + * This mechanism guarantees that the link will reestablish within 10 seconds
> + * in the worst-case scenario.
> + *
> + * Return: Time (in milliseconds) until the next update event for the PHY state
> + * machine.
> + */
> +static unsigned int dp83tg720_phy_get_next_update_time(struct phy_device *phydev)
> +{
> + unsigned int jiffy_ms = jiffies_to_msecs(1); /* Jiffy granularity in ms */
> + unsigned int next_time_ms;
> +
> + if (phydev->link) {
> + /* When the link is up, use a fixed 1000ms interval */
> + next_time_ms = DP83TG720S_POLL_ACTIVE_LINK;
> + } else {
> + unsigned int min_jiffies, max_jiffies, rand_jiffies;
> + /* When the link is down, randomize interval between
> + * configured min/max
> + */
> +
> + /* Convert min and max to jiffies */
> + min_jiffies = msecs_to_jiffies(DP83TG720S_POLL_NO_LINK_MIN);
> + max_jiffies = msecs_to_jiffies(DP83TG720S_POLL_NO_LINK_MAX);
> +
> + /* Randomize in the jiffie range and convert back to ms */
> + rand_jiffies = min_jiffies +
> + get_random_u32_below(max_jiffies - min_jiffies + 1);
> + next_time_ms = jiffies_to_msecs(rand_jiffies);
> + }
> +
> + /* Ensure the polling time is at least one jiffy */
> + return max(next_time_ms, jiffy_ms);
> +}
> +
> static struct phy_driver dp83tg720_driver[] = {
> {
> PHY_ID_MATCH_MODEL(DP83TG720S_PHY_ID),
> @@ -500,6 +575,7 @@ static struct phy_driver dp83tg720_driver[] = {
> .get_link_stats = dp83tg720_get_link_stats,
> .get_phy_stats = dp83tg720_get_phy_stats,
> .update_stats = dp83tg720_update_stats,
> + .get_next_update_time = dp83tg720_phy_get_next_update_time,
>
> .suspend = genphy_suspend,
> .resume = genphy_resume,
> --
> 2.39.5
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-27 17:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-11-27 13:10 [RFC net-next v1 1/2] net: phy: Add support for driver-specific next update time Oleksij Rempel
2024-11-27 13:10 ` [RFC net-next v1 2/2] net. phy: dp83tg720: Add randomized polling intervals for unstable link detection Oleksij Rempel
2024-11-27 15:37 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-11-28 8:07 ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-11-28 14:29 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-11-27 17:33 ` Heiner Kallweit [this message]
2024-11-28 7:57 ` Oleksij Rempel
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