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From: Christian Loehle <christian.loehle@arm.com>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
	Beata Michalska <beata.michalska@arm.com>,
	Elif Topuz <elif.topuz@arm.com>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@kernel.org>,
	Shubhang Kaushik <sh@gentwo.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@gentwo.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] sched/fair: Randomize equally shallow slow-path candidates
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2026 15:22:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f3912746-90f8-46de-a690-a840afa4a1d1@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKfTPtCAaACP8A=AKGO3PdhZtA9SRM6e3ym+5d=Qfp-VpDa38g@mail.gmail.com>

On 9/17/26 15:08, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Sept 2026 at 12:01, Christian Loehle
> <christian.loehle@arm.com> wrote:
>>
>> Picking the first eligible idle CPU leaves a scan-order bias. Concurrent
>> slow-path selectors can choose the same CPU before either task is enqueued.
>>
>> Use reservoir sampling in the tie branch, resetting the candidate count
>> when a lower advertised exit latency is found. Use the per-CPU scheduler
>> PRNG and reciprocal_scale() to avoid variable division or a second scan.
>>
>> This reduces deterministic convergence without reserving the chosen CPU.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Christian Loehle <christian.loehle@arm.com>
>> ---
>>  kernel/sched/fair.c | 11 ++++++++---
>>  1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
>> index ff5793bddc35..6836a8364440 100644
>> --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
>> +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
>> @@ -24,6 +24,7 @@
>>  #include <linux/mmap_lock.h>
>>  #include <linux/hugetlb_inline.h>
>>  #include <linux/jiffies.h>
>> +#include <linux/math.h>
>>  #include <linux/mm_api.h>
>>  #include <linux/highmem.h>
>>  #include <linux/hrtimer.h>
>> @@ -8459,6 +8460,7 @@ sched_balance_find_dst_group_cpu(struct sched_group *group, struct task_struct *
>>  {
>>         unsigned long load, min_load = ULONG_MAX;
>>         unsigned int min_exit_latency = UINT_MAX;
>> +       unsigned int nr_candidates = 0;
>>         int least_loaded_cpu = this_cpu;
>>         int shallowest_idle_cpu = -1;
>>         int i;
>> @@ -8482,9 +8484,12 @@ sched_balance_find_dst_group_cpu(struct sched_group *group, struct task_struct *
>>                         if (idle && idle->exit_latency < min_exit_latency) {
>>                                 min_exit_latency = idle->exit_latency;
>>                                 shallowest_idle_cpu = i;
>> +                               nr_candidates = 1;
> 
> You clear the number of candidate when you find a lower exit_latency
> but !idle CPUs that have already been checked will be cleared whereas
> they still get a chance if they are checked later.
That is correct. Is this a problem?
(Again, mirroring what upstream currently does, let's say exit_latency(CPU0)=100, exit_latency(CPU2)=1
!idle at CPU3 trumps CPU2 (assuming recent idle_stamp), !idle at CPU1 doesn't trump CPU2, i.e.
the inconsistency around !idle is already there?)
And I'm assuming we really don't wanna keep a cpumask of !idle CPUs, if anything we may just ignore
them completely, given how unlikely it they are to be observed.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-17 14:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-16 10:01 [PATCH 0/2] sched/fair: Randomize equally shallow idle CPU picks Christian Loehle
2026-09-16 10:01 ` [PATCH 1/2] sched/fair: Drop idle recency from slow-path CPU selection Christian Loehle
2026-09-17 13:28   ` Vincent Guittot
2026-09-16 10:01 ` [PATCH 2/2] sched/fair: Randomize equally shallow slow-path candidates Christian Loehle
2026-09-16 11:06   ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-09-16 11:10     ` Christian Loehle
2026-09-16 11:12   ` Christian Loehle
2026-09-16 11:46     ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-09-16 19:43   ` Shubhang
2026-09-17  7:47     ` Christian Loehle
2026-09-17  9:58       ` Christian Loehle
2026-09-17 14:02         ` Vincent Guittot
2026-09-17 14:16         ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-09-17 14:08   ` Vincent Guittot
2026-09-17 14:22     ` Christian Loehle [this message]
2026-09-17 15:08       ` Vincent Guittot
2026-09-17 15:17         ` Christian Loehle

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