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From: "Chen, Zide" <zide.chen@intel.com>
To: Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>
Cc: Yosry Ahmed <yosry@kernel.org>,
	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Mingwei Zhang <mizhang@google.com>,
	Das Sandipan <Sandipan.Das@amd.com>,
	Shukla Manali <Manali.Shukla@amd.com>,
	Dapeng Mi <dapeng1.mi@linux.intel.com>,
	Xudong Hao <xudong.hao@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 11/16] KVM: x86/pmu: Emulate the GLOBAL_STATUS_SET and GLOBAL_INUSE MSRs
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2026 16:48:01 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f7213eba-5b61-4514-a315-bce64823fad5@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALMp9eRsR8xaUmQyVu5QmYx1cZ2qFGGk+31bMymhmN9_iaPuMg@mail.gmail.com>



On 11/2/2026 4:25 PM, Jim Mattson wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2026 at 2:13 PM Chen, Zide <zide.chen@intel.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 11/2/2026 3:36 PM, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
>>>>>>> 1. GLOBAL_STATUS_TRACE_TOPAPMI_BIT can leak from the host into the
>>>>>>> guest. If a host PT PMI arrives while the guest context is loaded, bit
>>>>>>> 55 will be set for the guest, and the guest won't be able to clear it if
>>>>>>> OVF_CTRL is intercepted (it will #GP as it is reserved for the guest).
>>>>>>> Similarly, the value can't be restored through KVM_SET_MSRS.
>>>>>> I think mediated vPMU assumes that no host PMIs can be generated while
>>>>>> guest PMU state is loaded.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If PT state can leak into the guest via bit 55, similar leakage can also
>>>>>> occur for other status bits, e.g. when the guest exposes fewer
>>>>>> general-purpose or fixed counters than the host.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The scenario where both host and guest can be active simultaneously is
>>>>>> handled by the perfmon_mask case, where intel_mediated_pmu_{load,put}()
>>>>>> filter guest-owned status bits.
>>>>> Looking at the code:
>>>>>
>>>>> kvm_mediated_pmu_load() -> perf_load_guest_context() ->
>>>>> perf_ctx_disable() will iterate PMUs with for_each_epc() and disable
>>>>> them, which skips PMUs without PERF_PMU_CAP_MEDIATED_VPMU.
>>>>>
>>>>> Same for kvm_mediated_pmu_load() -> perf_load_guest_context()
>>>>> ->ctx_sched_out(), it also uses for_each_epc() to iterate PMUs and
>>>>> schedule them out.
>>>>>
>>>>> pt_init() does not set PERF_PMU_CAP_MEDIATED_VPMU on pt_pmu.pmu.capabilities
>>>>>
>>>>> Please correct me if I am wrong.
>>>> My apologies, this bug is indeed real because pt_pmu lacks the
>>>> PERF_PMU_CAP_MEDIATED_VPMU capability.
>>>>
>>>> Adding this capability to pt_pmu seems intuitive, but unlike
>>>>
>>>>                        the core PMU (which merely toggles enable bits),
>>>> Intel PT is an AUX-based PMU. Stopping and restarting it on every VM
>>>> transition is heavier, and I'm not sure whether it could introduce a
>>>> noticeable performance penalty.
>>>>
>>>> However, whether the solution is adding PERF_PMU_CAP_MEDIATED_VPMU or
>>>> some other mechanism to enforce mutual exclusion between pt_pmu and
>>>> mediated vPMU, we can address that in a separate patch.
>>>>
>>>> To immediately protect guest state and live migration in this series,
>>>> I'm thinking of adding the following defensive filter in
>>>> intel_mediated_pmu_put():
>>>>
>>>> + /*
>>>> +  * Scrub bits that are not virtualized for the guest to prevent
>>>> +  * possible host state from leaking into guest state and breaking
>>>> +  * live migration.
>>>> +  */
>>>> +  pmu->global_status &= ~pmu->global_status_rsvd;
>>> This doesn't prevent the leakage, it just clears it on the guest->host
>>> switch. So it helps live migration but I am not sure if it's better or
>>> worse if the guest sees the bit unexpectedly appear AND then
>>> unexpectedly disappear.
>> Right, as long as the GLOBAL_STATUS is passthru, the leak can't be
>> prevented.
>>> We can clear it when the MSR is read by userspace, which should fix
>>> live migration, but the guest will still see the bit, and it will
>>> still disappear unexpectedly but only during live migration.
>>>
>>> The guest still won't be able to clear it when OVF_CTRL is intercepted.
>> GLOBAL_STATUS and OVF_CTRL share the same interception policy. If they
>> are passed through, the guest can see the bit and clear it; if both are
>> intercepted, then bit 55 can't leak to the guest.
>>
>> It's not perfect, but at least the guest won't observe bit 55 and then
>> get an unexpected #GP when attempting to clear it.
> I'm not sure what imperfect solution you are referring to, but Yosry's
> proposal that the bit gets cleared on a guest->host switch is a
> non-starter. MSR bits must not vanish unpredictably.

Agree, then maybe Yosry's suggestion is what we can do for now: filter
out unsupported bits when the MSR is read by userspace.

diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/pmu.c b/arch/x86/kvm/pmu.c
index 38c7a4fa1007..3849b3f5234a 100644
--- a/arch/x86/kvm/pmu.c
+++ b/arch/x86/kvm/pmu.c
@@ -862,6 +862,8 @@ int kvm_pmu_get_msr(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu, struct
msr_data *msr_info)
        switch (msr) {
        case MSR_CORE_PERF_GLOBAL_STATUS:
        case MSR_AMD64_PERF_CNTR_GLOBAL_STATUS:
+               if (msr_info->host_initiated)
+                       pmu->global_status &= ~pmu->global_status_rsvd;

The underlying issue still requires proper mutual exclusion between
Intel PT and mediated vPMU, which I think can be addressed separately.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-02 22:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-27 22:37 [PATCH] KVM: x86/pmu: Add mediated vPMU PerfMon v5 support Zide Chen
2026-08-27 22:37 ` [PATCH v2 01/16] KVM: x86/pmu: Remove redundant Perf Global Status MSR bit definitions Zide Chen
2026-09-01  2:07   ` Mi, Dapeng
2026-10-28 14:03   ` Jim Mattson
2026-08-27 22:37 ` [PATCH v2 02/16] KVM: x86/pmu: Rename all_valid_pmc_idx to pmc_exists Zide Chen
2026-09-01  2:09   ` Mi, Dapeng
2026-10-28 14:04   ` Jim Mattson
2026-08-27 22:37 ` [PATCH v2 03/16] KVM: x86/pmu: Rename reserved_bits to eventsel_rsvd in kvm_pmu Zide Chen
2026-09-01  2:17   ` Mi, Dapeng
2026-10-28 14:05   ` Jim Mattson
2026-11-02 13:53   ` Sandipan Das
2026-08-27 22:37 ` [PATCH v2 04/16] KVM: x86/pmu: Gate BUFFER_OVF reserved bit on guest DS Zide Chen
2026-09-01  2:30   ` Mi, Dapeng
2026-10-28 14:25   ` Jim Mattson
2026-10-28 19:05     ` Chen, Zide
2026-08-27 22:37 ` [PATCH v2 05/16] KVM: x86/pmu: Add PMC bitmap accessor helpers Zide Chen
2026-09-01  2:43   ` Mi, Dapeng
2026-10-28 14:32   ` Jim Mattson
2026-10-28 17:24     ` Chen, Zide
2026-08-27 22:37 ` [PATCH v2 06/16] KVM: x86/pmu: Drop nr_arch_{gp,fixed}_counters from kvm_pmu Zide Chen
2026-09-01  3:07   ` Mi, Dapeng
2026-10-28 14:49   ` Jim Mattson
2026-10-28 17:04     ` Chen, Zide
2026-08-27 22:37 ` [PATCH v2 07/16] KVM: x86/pmu: Expose kvm_host_pmu to vendor modules Zide Chen
2026-09-01  3:08   ` Mi, Dapeng
2026-10-28 17:33   ` Jim Mattson
2026-08-27 22:37 ` [PATCH v2 08/16] perf/x86: Plumb counter bitmap from x86_pmu to x86_pmu_cap Zide Chen
2026-10-28 17:39   ` Jim Mattson
2026-08-27 22:37 ` [PATCH v2 09/16] KVM: x86/pmu: Switch to bitmask-based KVM PMU capabilities Zide Chen
2026-09-01  3:32   ` Mi, Dapeng
2026-10-28 17:57   ` Jim Mattson
2026-10-28 20:56     ` Chen, Zide
2026-08-27 22:37 ` [PATCH v2 10/16] perf/x86: Remove num_counters_{gp,fixed} from x86_pmu_capability Zide Chen
2026-10-28 18:01   ` Jim Mattson
2026-08-27 22:37 ` [PATCH v2 11/16] KVM: x86/pmu: Emulate the GLOBAL_STATUS_SET and GLOBAL_INUSE MSRs Zide Chen
2026-09-01  6:45   ` Mi, Dapeng
2026-09-01 14:20     ` Chen, Zide
2026-09-02  0:44       ` Mi, Dapeng
2026-10-28 21:24   ` Jim Mattson
2026-10-29 17:45     ` Chen, Zide
2026-10-30 11:55       ` Jim Mattson
2026-10-30 17:20         ` Chen, Zide
2026-10-30 18:23           ` Jim Mattson
2026-10-30 20:01             ` Chen, Zide
2026-10-30 22:13     ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-11-02 17:38       ` Chen, Zide
2026-11-02 18:32         ` Jim Mattson
2026-11-02 18:49         ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-11-02 21:29           ` Chen, Zide
2026-11-02 21:36             ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-11-02 22:13               ` Chen, Zide
2026-11-02 22:25                 ` Jim Mattson
2026-11-02 22:48                   ` Chen, Zide [this message]
2026-11-02 22:51                     ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-11-02 23:26                       ` Chen, Zide
2026-11-02 23:37                         ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-11-03  4:32                           ` Chen, Zide
2026-11-02 23:44                       ` Jim Mattson
2026-11-03  4:32                         ` Chen, Zide
2026-08-27 22:37 ` [PATCH v2 12/16] KVM: x86/pmu: Populate CPUID.0AH:ECX fixed-counter bitmap Zide Chen
2026-09-01  6:50   ` Mi, Dapeng
2026-10-28 21:29   ` Jim Mattson
2026-10-28 21:55     ` Chen, Zide
2026-08-27 22:37 ` [PATCH v2 13/16] KVM: x86/pmu: Factor out fixed counter control bit calculation Zide Chen
2026-09-01  6:57   ` Mi, Dapeng
2026-10-28 21:30   ` Jim Mattson
2026-08-27 22:37 ` [PATCH v2 14/16] KVM: x86/pmu: Ignore AnyThread bit if CPUID.0AH:EDX[15] is set Zide Chen
2026-09-01  8:01   ` Mi, Dapeng
2026-10-28 21:50   ` Jim Mattson
2026-10-28 23:05     ` Chen, Zide
2026-10-28 23:09       ` Jim Mattson
2026-08-27 22:37 ` [PATCH v2 15/16] KVM: x86/pmu: Advertise PerfMon version 5 on Intel hosts Zide Chen
2026-10-28 21:59   ` Jim Mattson
2026-10-28 22:10     ` Chen, Zide
2026-08-27 22:37 ` [PATCH v2 16/16] KVM: selftests: Support fixed counters bitmap in pmu_counters_test Zide Chen
2026-08-29  9:30 ` [PATCH] KVM: x86/pmu: Add mediated vPMU PerfMon v5 support Peter Zijlstra
2026-10-19 19:15 ` [PATCH v2] " Chen, Zide

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