From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@in.ibm.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, fastboot <fastboot@lists.osdl.org>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Fastboot] [PATCH] Reserving backup region for kexec based crashdumps.
Date: 21 Jan 2005 04:13:10 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m17jm72fy1.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1106305073.26219.46.camel@2fwv946.in.ibm.com>
On deeper review your patch as it stands is incomplete. In particular
you don't provide a way to either hardcode or dynamically set
the area you are attempt to reserve to hold the backup region.
Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@in.ibm.com> writes:
> On Fri, 2005-01-21 at 13:24, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> > Why do we need a separate region for this?
> >
> > It should be simple enough to take 640 out of the area kexec reserves
> > for the crash dump kernel. That is what the previous code implemented.
>
> Previous code also reserved the backup memory region after crash kernel
> region. It is just a matter of interpretation. What I understand that
> crash kernel reserved region represents something where one can load the
> panic kernel directly and new kernel can use this memory region for
> memory allocation.
Yes the reservation is a hunk of memory reserved for use by the crashdump
process, or whatever happens after panic. It is up to the loaded code
to define how that memory is used. purgatory.ro is a legitimate part
of that loaded code.
> I don't want to steal the backup region from crash kernel region
> otherwise, I shall have to boot the crash kernel with some strange
> values like memmap=(32M-640k)@16M (symbolically) to prevent crash kernel
> overwriting backup region. Why to make user aware of location of backup
> region.
Making the user aware of the region makes it one more thing for the user
to be aware of and to manually manage. Based on what was passed as
crashkernel=... We should be able to automate all of the rest of it.
So a weird memmap= line should not be hard.
I will have to wait and see but it would not surprise me if we settled
on a fixed address per architecture for the reservation to make it
easier for various users.
On that note we probably want to move the magic that we are doing
for crashdumps into the linux loader (i.e. x86-linux-setup.c ) in
kexec-tools, as most of these pieces are specific to taking a
crashdump with linux. Not that I expect we will be doing it with
anything else but...
> Alternatively, this can be managed by reserving this backup region again
> in crash kernel to avoid any stomping. May be pass backup region
> location to new kernel through parameter segment or through command line
> but don't see a strong reason for doing that.
Probably the biggest reason for doing it in one reservation is that
it happens to be an implementation detail of the crashdump capture
kernel. If that kernel is not SMP I believe you can safely leave the
first 640k alone. I know at least one other effort has had success in
that area.
In general it is not good to make unnecessary implementation details
between two pieces of software be part of their interface.
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-01-21 11:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-01-19 7:31 [PATCH 0/29] overview Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 1/29] x86-rename-apic_mode_exint Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 2/29] x86-local-apic-fix Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 3/29] x86_64-e820-64bit Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 4/29] x86-i8259-shutdown Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 5/29] x86_64-i8259-shutdown Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 6/29] x86-apic-virtwire-on-shutdown Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 7/29] x86_64-apic-virtwire-on-shutdown Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 8/29] vmlinux-fix-physical-addrs Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 9/29] x86-vmlinux-fix-physical-addrs Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 10/29] x86_64-vmlinux-fix-physical-addrs Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 11/29] x86_64-entry64 Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 12/29] x86-config-kernel-start Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 13/29] x86_64-config-kernel-start Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 14/29] kexec-kexec-generic Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 15/29] x86-machine_shutdown Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 16/29] x86-kexec Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 17/29] x86-crashkernel Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 18/29] x86_64-machine_shutdown Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 19/29] x86_64-kexec Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 20/29] x86_64-crashkernel Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 21/29] kexec-ppc-support Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 22/29] x86-crash_shutdown-nmi-shootdown Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 23/29] x86-crash_shutdown-snapshot-registers Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 24/29] x86-crash_shutdown-apic-shutdown Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 25/29] crashdump-documentation Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 26/29] crashdump-memory-preserving-reboot-using-kexec Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 27/29] crashdump-routines-for-copying-dump-pages Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 28/29] crashdump-elf-format-dump-file-access Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 29/29] crashdump-linear-raw-format-dump-file-access Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 12:25 ` [PATCH 19/29] x86_64-kexec Andi Kleen
2005-01-20 15:50 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-20 18:06 ` [Fastboot] " Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 12:10 ` [PATCH 16/29] x86-kexec Hariprasad Nellitheertha
2005-01-19 18:17 ` [Fastboot] " Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-25 3:54 ` [PATCH 6/29] x86-apic-virtwire-on-shutdown Len Brown
2005-01-25 6:39 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-25 7:36 ` Len Brown
2005-01-25 9:11 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-25 3:32 ` [PATCH 4/29] x86-i8259-shutdown Len Brown
2005-01-25 3:59 ` Dave Jones
2005-01-25 6:30 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-25 8:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-25 9:43 ` Barry K. Nathan
2005-01-25 10:14 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-25 10:49 ` Barry K. Nathan
2005-01-25 11:40 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-25 20:57 ` Barry K. Nathan
2005-01-25 12:12 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-25 22:02 ` Barry K. Nathan
2005-01-25 22:12 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-26 13:27 ` Sytse Wielinga
2005-01-26 14:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-26 14:43 ` Sytse Wielinga
2005-01-26 15:12 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-26 22:58 ` Barry K. Nathan
2005-01-21 7:55 ` [PATCH] Reserving backup region for kexec based crashdumps Vivek Goyal
2005-01-21 7:54 ` [Fastboot] " Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-21 10:57 ` Vivek Goyal
2005-01-21 11:13 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2005-01-23 10:14 ` Vivek Goyal
2005-01-26 17:21 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-26 19:15 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-27 13:45 ` Vivek Goyal
2005-01-27 20:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-28 13:06 ` Vivek Goyal
2005-01-28 20:29 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-01 15:17 ` Vivek Goyal
2005-02-01 15:26 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-02 7:10 ` Itsuro Oda
2005-02-02 7:49 ` Koichi Suzuki
2005-02-02 15:24 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-03 7:28 ` Itsuro Oda
2005-02-03 9:00 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-03 23:18 ` Itsuro Oda
2005-02-04 0:41 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-04 1:07 ` Itsuro Oda
2005-02-16 8:49 ` [PATCH] /proc/cpumem Itsuro Oda
2005-02-16 13:58 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-17 0:43 ` Itsuro Oda
2005-02-17 9:55 ` [Fastboot] " Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-18 6:17 ` Itsuro Oda
2005-02-18 7:22 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-17 0:17 ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2005-02-17 5:58 ` [Fastboot] " Vivek Goyal
2005-02-17 6:18 ` Itsuro Oda
2005-02-17 18:18 ` Dave Jones
2005-02-17 19:46 ` [Fastboot] " Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-02 14:26 ` [Fastboot] [PATCH] Reserving backup region for kexec based crashdumps Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-02 10:07 ` Vivek Goyal
2005-02-02 15:42 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-03 14:47 ` Vivek Goyal
2005-02-01 8:04 ` Koichi Suzuki
2005-02-01 9:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-02 7:42 ` Itsuro Oda
2005-02-02 14:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-04 0:23 ` Itsuro Oda
2005-02-04 1:55 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-02 9:08 ` Koichi Suzuki
2005-02-02 14:31 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-03 7:02 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2005-02-03 9:01 ` Vivek Goyal
2005-02-03 9:37 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2005-02-03 10:07 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-03 9:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-03 10:10 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2005-02-03 10:39 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-04 10:05 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2005-02-04 11:17 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-04 12:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
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