From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Hirokazu Takahashi <taka@valinux.co.jp>
Cc: vgoyal@in.ibm.com, ebiederm@xmission.com, akpm@osdl.org,
fastboot@lists.osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
maneesh@in.ibm.com, hari@in.ibm.com, suparna@in.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [Fastboot] [PATCH] Reserving backup region for kexec based crashdumps.
Date: 03 Feb 2005 02:13:08 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1zmym6m6z.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050203.160252.104031714.taka@valinux.co.jp>
Hirokazu Takahashi <taka@valinux.co.jp> writes:
> Hi Vivek and Eric,
>
> IMHO, why don't we swap not only the contents of the top 640K
> but also kernel working memory for kdump kernel?
>
> I guess this approach has some good points.
>
> 1.Preallocating reserved area is not mandatory at boot time.
> And the reserved area can be distributed in small pieces
> like original kexec does.
>
> 2.Special linking is not required for kdump kernel.
> Each kdump kernel can be linked in the same way,
> where the original kernel exists.
>
> Am I missing something?
Preallocating the reserved area is largely to keep it from
being the target of DMA accesses. Since we are not able
to shutdown any of the drivers in the primary kernel running
in a normal swath of memory sounds like a good way to get
yourself stomped at the worst possible time.
In addition we get to avoid running a lot of code in the
panic path if we are jumping to a contiguous region of memory
with everything already setup.
To some extent this is a contest who has the better imagination
for things that can go wrong. Real life on dying hardware and
kernels, or the programmers writing the diagnostic code.
But if it is a gamble you are willing to take it is quite
feasible to use the reserved region for what you are
proposing and you could run a standard kernel.
The other reason for running out of the reserved region is that
it actually requires less memory reserved. Every byte you backup
needs to have a reserved area of memory to hold it. And if you are
also going to fill that with meaningful content you need another
byte to hold the data. So using a stock kernel probably requires
2/3 more memory.
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-02-03 9:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-01-19 7:31 [PATCH 0/29] overview Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 1/29] x86-rename-apic_mode_exint Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 2/29] x86-local-apic-fix Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 3/29] x86_64-e820-64bit Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 4/29] x86-i8259-shutdown Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 5/29] x86_64-i8259-shutdown Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 6/29] x86-apic-virtwire-on-shutdown Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 7/29] x86_64-apic-virtwire-on-shutdown Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 8/29] vmlinux-fix-physical-addrs Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 9/29] x86-vmlinux-fix-physical-addrs Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 10/29] x86_64-vmlinux-fix-physical-addrs Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 11/29] x86_64-entry64 Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 12/29] x86-config-kernel-start Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 13/29] x86_64-config-kernel-start Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 14/29] kexec-kexec-generic Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 15/29] x86-machine_shutdown Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 16/29] x86-kexec Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 17/29] x86-crashkernel Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 18/29] x86_64-machine_shutdown Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 19/29] x86_64-kexec Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 20/29] x86_64-crashkernel Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 21/29] kexec-ppc-support Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 22/29] x86-crash_shutdown-nmi-shootdown Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 23/29] x86-crash_shutdown-snapshot-registers Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 24/29] x86-crash_shutdown-apic-shutdown Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 25/29] crashdump-documentation Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 26/29] crashdump-memory-preserving-reboot-using-kexec Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 27/29] crashdump-routines-for-copying-dump-pages Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 28/29] crashdump-elf-format-dump-file-access Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 7:31 ` [PATCH 29/29] crashdump-linear-raw-format-dump-file-access Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 12:25 ` [PATCH 19/29] x86_64-kexec Andi Kleen
2005-01-20 15:50 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-20 18:06 ` [Fastboot] " Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 12:10 ` [PATCH 16/29] x86-kexec Hariprasad Nellitheertha
2005-01-19 18:17 ` [Fastboot] " Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-25 3:54 ` [PATCH 6/29] x86-apic-virtwire-on-shutdown Len Brown
2005-01-25 6:39 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-25 7:36 ` Len Brown
2005-01-25 9:11 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-25 3:32 ` [PATCH 4/29] x86-i8259-shutdown Len Brown
2005-01-25 3:59 ` Dave Jones
2005-01-25 6:30 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-25 8:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-25 9:43 ` Barry K. Nathan
2005-01-25 10:14 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-25 10:49 ` Barry K. Nathan
2005-01-25 11:40 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-25 20:57 ` Barry K. Nathan
2005-01-25 12:12 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-25 22:02 ` Barry K. Nathan
2005-01-25 22:12 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-26 13:27 ` Sytse Wielinga
2005-01-26 14:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-26 14:43 ` Sytse Wielinga
2005-01-26 15:12 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-26 22:58 ` Barry K. Nathan
2005-01-21 7:55 ` [PATCH] Reserving backup region for kexec based crashdumps Vivek Goyal
2005-01-21 7:54 ` [Fastboot] " Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-21 10:57 ` Vivek Goyal
2005-01-21 11:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-23 10:14 ` Vivek Goyal
2005-01-26 17:21 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-26 19:15 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-27 13:45 ` Vivek Goyal
2005-01-27 20:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-28 13:06 ` Vivek Goyal
2005-01-28 20:29 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-01 15:17 ` Vivek Goyal
2005-02-01 15:26 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-02 7:10 ` Itsuro Oda
2005-02-02 7:49 ` Koichi Suzuki
2005-02-02 15:24 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-03 7:28 ` Itsuro Oda
2005-02-03 9:00 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-03 23:18 ` Itsuro Oda
2005-02-04 0:41 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-04 1:07 ` Itsuro Oda
2005-02-16 8:49 ` [PATCH] /proc/cpumem Itsuro Oda
2005-02-16 13:58 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-17 0:43 ` Itsuro Oda
2005-02-17 9:55 ` [Fastboot] " Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-18 6:17 ` Itsuro Oda
2005-02-18 7:22 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-17 0:17 ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2005-02-17 5:58 ` [Fastboot] " Vivek Goyal
2005-02-17 6:18 ` Itsuro Oda
2005-02-17 18:18 ` Dave Jones
2005-02-17 19:46 ` [Fastboot] " Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-02 14:26 ` [Fastboot] [PATCH] Reserving backup region for kexec based crashdumps Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-02 10:07 ` Vivek Goyal
2005-02-02 15:42 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-03 14:47 ` Vivek Goyal
2005-02-01 8:04 ` Koichi Suzuki
2005-02-01 9:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-02 7:42 ` Itsuro Oda
2005-02-02 14:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-04 0:23 ` Itsuro Oda
2005-02-04 1:55 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-02 9:08 ` Koichi Suzuki
2005-02-02 14:31 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-03 7:02 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2005-02-03 9:01 ` Vivek Goyal
2005-02-03 9:37 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2005-02-03 10:07 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-03 9:13 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2005-02-03 10:10 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2005-02-03 10:39 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-04 10:05 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2005-02-04 11:17 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-04 12:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
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