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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@in.ibm.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, fastboot <fastboot@lists.osdl.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Maneesh Soni <maneesh@in.ibm.com>,
	Hariprasad Nellitheertha <hari@in.ibm.com>,
	suparna bhattacharya <suparna@in.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Fastboot] [PATCH] Reserving backup region for kexec based crashdumps.
Date: 28 Jan 2005 13:29:38 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1r7k5e1ql.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1106917583.15652.234.camel@2fwv946.in.ibm.com>

Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@in.ibm.com> writes:

> Hi Eric,
> 
> 
> However for the primary kernel it has no need to know that we
> > even have a backup region, nor does it need to know about the
> > size of the backup region.  That can all be handled with the single
> > reservation, we have now.  
> > 
> > /sbin/kexec which makes the backup needs to know about it and it needs
> > to pass that information on.  But the primary kernel does not. 
> 
> 
> Agreed. Primary kernel need not to be aware of backup region and 
> reservation of this region can be better managed from user space.

Good.  It sound like we are pretty much back on the same page then.

> > > Boot time parameter crashbackup=A@B has been provided to pass this
> > > information to capture kernel. This parameter is valid only for capture
> > > kernel and becomes effective only if CONFIG_CRASH_DUMP is enabled.
> > 
> > But that is not what you implemented.  crashbackup= was an alternative
> > to the carving out of 640K in parts 1-3.
> 
> 
> Not really. crashbackup= is not being used for carving out backup
> region. It is just used for passing the address of this region to second
> kernel. That's why it has been put under CONFIG_CRASH_DUMP.

Ok I missed a piece in your patch.  You have crashdumpk_res, and
crashbackup_start, crashbackup_end.   And I missed the fact that
they were different variables as they dealt with the same concept.

So that patch actually should have been three patches.  The
one line bug fix.  The crashdumpk_res bit (which I strongly
object to) and the crashbackup_start/_end bit.  The fact
that all three were in the same patch is a reviewing and maintenance
pain.

Please in the future do not include code that runs in the primary
kernel and crashdump specific code that runs in the capture kernel in
the same patch.

> This looks good. So memory regions are parsed from /proc/iomem and this
> information is put in one data segment and stored in reserved region
> during panic kernel load time.
> 
> But I am unable to co-relate as to how the capture tool (even if its all
> in user space) gets to know the address of this segment (or for that
> matter, the bss segment created for backup region). Am I missing
> something obvious.

There are a lot of choices at that point.
Place the data in the on the kernel command line, and pick
it up from /proc/cmdline.
Place the data in a file on the initramfs.
Place the data in a user space data segment.


> > However as long as we gracefully handle the interface
> > between the primary kernel and the capture kernel we can
> > switch mechanisms for actually taking the crash dump,
> > kernel based or user space as seems most sane.
> 
> 
> This seems to be a good direction.

Cool.

One of the ideas worth exploring is to see about stabilizing the
other side of this interface as well.   That is we should explore
providing a fixed interface coming out of purgatory.ro to the new
kernel and it's user space (i.e. the ELF header like thing).  I think
we are quite close to that point already.  And this goes back to your
question of how do we let the capture kernel/user space know where to
look.

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2005-01-28 20:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-01-19  7:31 [PATCH 0/29] overview Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31 ` [PATCH 1/29] x86-rename-apic_mode_exint Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31   ` [PATCH 2/29] x86-local-apic-fix Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31     ` [PATCH 3/29] x86_64-e820-64bit Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31       ` [PATCH 4/29] x86-i8259-shutdown Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31         ` [PATCH 5/29] x86_64-i8259-shutdown Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31           ` [PATCH 6/29] x86-apic-virtwire-on-shutdown Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31             ` [PATCH 7/29] x86_64-apic-virtwire-on-shutdown Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31               ` [PATCH 8/29] vmlinux-fix-physical-addrs Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31                 ` [PATCH 9/29] x86-vmlinux-fix-physical-addrs Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31                   ` [PATCH 10/29] x86_64-vmlinux-fix-physical-addrs Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31                     ` [PATCH 11/29] x86_64-entry64 Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31                       ` [PATCH 12/29] x86-config-kernel-start Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31                         ` [PATCH 13/29] x86_64-config-kernel-start Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31                           ` [PATCH 14/29] kexec-kexec-generic Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31                             ` [PATCH 15/29] x86-machine_shutdown Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31                               ` [PATCH 16/29] x86-kexec Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31                                 ` [PATCH 17/29] x86-crashkernel Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31                                   ` [PATCH 18/29] x86_64-machine_shutdown Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31                                     ` [PATCH 19/29] x86_64-kexec Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31                                       ` [PATCH 20/29] x86_64-crashkernel Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31                                         ` [PATCH 21/29] kexec-ppc-support Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31                                           ` [PATCH 22/29] x86-crash_shutdown-nmi-shootdown Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31                                             ` [PATCH 23/29] x86-crash_shutdown-snapshot-registers Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31                                               ` [PATCH 24/29] x86-crash_shutdown-apic-shutdown Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31                                                 ` [PATCH 25/29] crashdump-documentation Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31                                                   ` [PATCH 26/29] crashdump-memory-preserving-reboot-using-kexec Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31                                                     ` [PATCH 27/29] crashdump-routines-for-copying-dump-pages Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31                                                       ` [PATCH 28/29] crashdump-elf-format-dump-file-access Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31                                                         ` [PATCH 29/29] crashdump-linear-raw-format-dump-file-access Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 12:25                                       ` [PATCH 19/29] x86_64-kexec Andi Kleen
2005-01-20 15:50                                       ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-20 18:06                                         ` [Fastboot] " Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 12:10                                 ` [PATCH 16/29] x86-kexec Hariprasad Nellitheertha
2005-01-19 18:17                                   ` [Fastboot] " Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-25  3:54             ` [PATCH 6/29] x86-apic-virtwire-on-shutdown Len Brown
2005-01-25  6:39               ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-25  7:36                 ` Len Brown
2005-01-25  9:11                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-25  3:32         ` [PATCH 4/29] x86-i8259-shutdown Len Brown
2005-01-25  3:59           ` Dave Jones
2005-01-25  6:30             ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-25  8:35             ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-25  9:43               ` Barry K. Nathan
2005-01-25 10:14                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-25 10:49                   ` Barry K. Nathan
2005-01-25 11:40                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-25 20:57                       ` Barry K. Nathan
2005-01-25 12:12                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-25 22:02                       ` Barry K. Nathan
2005-01-25 22:12                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-26 13:27                           ` Sytse Wielinga
2005-01-26 14:06                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-26 14:43                               ` Sytse Wielinga
2005-01-26 15:12                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-26 22:58                                   ` Barry K. Nathan
2005-01-21  7:55 ` [PATCH] Reserving backup region for kexec based crashdumps Vivek Goyal
2005-01-21  7:54   ` [Fastboot] " Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-21 10:57     ` Vivek Goyal
2005-01-21 11:13       ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-23 10:14         ` Vivek Goyal
2005-01-26 17:21           ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-26 19:15             ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-27 13:45             ` Vivek Goyal
2005-01-27 20:45               ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-28 13:06                 ` Vivek Goyal
2005-01-28 20:29                   ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2005-02-01 15:17                     ` Vivek Goyal
2005-02-01 15:26                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-02  7:10                         ` Itsuro Oda
2005-02-02  7:49                           ` Koichi Suzuki
2005-02-02 15:24                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-03  7:28                               ` Itsuro Oda
2005-02-03  9:00                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-03 23:18                                   ` Itsuro Oda
2005-02-04  0:41                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-04  1:07                                     ` Itsuro Oda
2005-02-16  8:49                                   ` [PATCH] /proc/cpumem Itsuro Oda
2005-02-16 13:58                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-17  0:43                                       ` Itsuro Oda
2005-02-17  9:55                                         ` [Fastboot] " Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-18  6:17                                           ` Itsuro Oda
2005-02-18  7:22                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-17  0:17                                     ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2005-02-17  5:58                                     ` [Fastboot] " Vivek Goyal
2005-02-17  6:18                                       ` Itsuro Oda
2005-02-17 18:18                                     ` Dave Jones
2005-02-17 19:46                                       ` [Fastboot] " Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-02 14:26                           ` [Fastboot] [PATCH] Reserving backup region for kexec based crashdumps Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-02 10:07                         ` Vivek Goyal
2005-02-02 15:42                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-03 14:47                             ` Vivek Goyal
2005-02-01  8:04                 ` Koichi Suzuki
2005-02-01  9:06                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-02  7:42                     ` Itsuro Oda
2005-02-02 14:45                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-04  0:23                         ` Itsuro Oda
2005-02-04  1:55                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-02  9:08                     ` Koichi Suzuki
2005-02-02 14:31                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-03  7:02               ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2005-02-03  9:01                 ` Vivek Goyal
2005-02-03  9:37                   ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2005-02-03 10:07                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-03  9:13                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-03 10:10                   ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2005-02-03 10:39                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-04 10:05                       ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2005-02-04 11:17                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-04 12:02                           ` Eric W. Biederman

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