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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Itsuro Oda <oda@valinux.co.jp>
Cc: fastboot <fastboot@lists.osdl.org>, lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Fastboot] Re: [PATCH] /proc/cpumem
Date: 17 Feb 2005 02:55:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1vf8rtsrw.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050217084547.4C72.ODA@valinux.co.jp>

Itsuro Oda <oda@valinux.co.jp> writes:

> Hi Eric,
> 
> > The lack of a type field looses a fair amount of functionality compared
> > to /proc/iomem.  In particular you can't see where the ACPI data is.
> 
> Hmm, restricting System RAM only may be too pessimistic.
> (One of motivations of this work is for using /dev/mem safely.
>  "dd if=/dev/mem of=xxx" causes panic on my amd64(8GB mem) machine
>  since reading from address around 0xfe000000 causes a machine
>  check. hmm, this area is marked as "reserved". not ACPI area.
>  ACPI area can be read.)
> 
> Ok, I will add a type field.

To be very clear.  I do not believe is necessary for x86.  The
is already sufficient information elsewhere to handle this.

> > The other direction something like this can go is to dump 
> > the data structures in linux/mmzone.h 
> 
> Do you mean defining a data structure in linux/mmzone.h ?
> 
> I used to think a particular struct is not necessary for this work,
> but now I think it is better to define a struct for this.
> Let me consider. 

To be clear there are two pieces of information that are needed.
1) The list of physical memory areas and what they are.
   /proc/iomem does a good job of this.
2) The list of which memory areas the kernel is using.
   It is the pgdat_t and related structures that define this.
   For the purposes of a core dump we want to capture this
   information before the kernel crashes and use it afterward.

> > I have written a first pass at a user space core dump generator,
> > using /dev/mem.  /sbin/kexec still needs some work to prepare
> > the ELF headers before a crash.
> 
> I am looking forward this :-)
> 
> And, you mentioned a couple of weeks ago:
> > Anyway one thing I want to do is actually drop the apic shutdown
> > code altogether in this code path.  I threw it in there to
> > ease the transition from the old code base to the new, but
> > if that code is causing issues....  So this is probably a good time
> > to start testing that.
> 
> How about this ?

My role in this is that of maintainer and architect.  On a practical
level I gain nothing from a working crash-dump/kexec-on-panic
implementation except it stops being a gating factor for the rest
of the kexec code.  So while many times I can see what needs to be
done it is hard for me to justify doing it.  So a lot of times
where I will weigh in with code is when I see a particular blind spot
on the part of the implementors.

The parties I see actively working on the crash dump implementation
are currently a group from IBM and you guys from valinux.co.jp.
One of the primaries at IBM has been on vacation which is likely
why we have not seen anything out of them for the last couple of
weeks.

But also this is open source software it will be done when it
is done.

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2005-02-17  9:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-01-19  7:31 [PATCH 0/29] overview Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31 ` [PATCH 1/29] x86-rename-apic_mode_exint Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31   ` [PATCH 2/29] x86-local-apic-fix Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31     ` [PATCH 3/29] x86_64-e820-64bit Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31       ` [PATCH 4/29] x86-i8259-shutdown Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31         ` [PATCH 5/29] x86_64-i8259-shutdown Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31           ` [PATCH 6/29] x86-apic-virtwire-on-shutdown Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31             ` [PATCH 7/29] x86_64-apic-virtwire-on-shutdown Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31               ` [PATCH 8/29] vmlinux-fix-physical-addrs Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31                 ` [PATCH 9/29] x86-vmlinux-fix-physical-addrs Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31                   ` [PATCH 10/29] x86_64-vmlinux-fix-physical-addrs Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31                     ` [PATCH 11/29] x86_64-entry64 Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31                       ` [PATCH 12/29] x86-config-kernel-start Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31                         ` [PATCH 13/29] x86_64-config-kernel-start Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31                           ` [PATCH 14/29] kexec-kexec-generic Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31                             ` [PATCH 15/29] x86-machine_shutdown Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31                               ` [PATCH 16/29] x86-kexec Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31                                 ` [PATCH 17/29] x86-crashkernel Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31                                   ` [PATCH 18/29] x86_64-machine_shutdown Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31                                     ` [PATCH 19/29] x86_64-kexec Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31                                       ` [PATCH 20/29] x86_64-crashkernel Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31                                         ` [PATCH 21/29] kexec-ppc-support Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31                                           ` [PATCH 22/29] x86-crash_shutdown-nmi-shootdown Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31                                             ` [PATCH 23/29] x86-crash_shutdown-snapshot-registers Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31                                               ` [PATCH 24/29] x86-crash_shutdown-apic-shutdown Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31                                                 ` [PATCH 25/29] crashdump-documentation Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31                                                   ` [PATCH 26/29] crashdump-memory-preserving-reboot-using-kexec Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31                                                     ` [PATCH 27/29] crashdump-routines-for-copying-dump-pages Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31                                                       ` [PATCH 28/29] crashdump-elf-format-dump-file-access Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19  7:31                                                         ` [PATCH 29/29] crashdump-linear-raw-format-dump-file-access Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 12:25                                       ` [PATCH 19/29] x86_64-kexec Andi Kleen
2005-01-20 15:50                                       ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-20 18:06                                         ` [Fastboot] " Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-19 12:10                                 ` [PATCH 16/29] x86-kexec Hariprasad Nellitheertha
2005-01-19 18:17                                   ` [Fastboot] " Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-25  3:54             ` [PATCH 6/29] x86-apic-virtwire-on-shutdown Len Brown
2005-01-25  6:39               ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-25  7:36                 ` Len Brown
2005-01-25  9:11                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-25  3:32         ` [PATCH 4/29] x86-i8259-shutdown Len Brown
2005-01-25  3:59           ` Dave Jones
2005-01-25  6:30             ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-25  8:35             ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-25  9:43               ` Barry K. Nathan
2005-01-25 10:14                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-25 10:49                   ` Barry K. Nathan
2005-01-25 11:40                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-25 20:57                       ` Barry K. Nathan
2005-01-25 12:12                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-25 22:02                       ` Barry K. Nathan
2005-01-25 22:12                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-26 13:27                           ` Sytse Wielinga
2005-01-26 14:06                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-26 14:43                               ` Sytse Wielinga
2005-01-26 15:12                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-26 22:58                                   ` Barry K. Nathan
2005-01-21  7:55 ` [PATCH] Reserving backup region for kexec based crashdumps Vivek Goyal
2005-01-21  7:54   ` [Fastboot] " Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-21 10:57     ` Vivek Goyal
2005-01-21 11:13       ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-23 10:14         ` Vivek Goyal
2005-01-26 17:21           ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-26 19:15             ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-27 13:45             ` Vivek Goyal
2005-01-27 20:45               ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-28 13:06                 ` Vivek Goyal
2005-01-28 20:29                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-01 15:17                     ` Vivek Goyal
2005-02-01 15:26                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-02  7:10                         ` Itsuro Oda
2005-02-02  7:49                           ` Koichi Suzuki
2005-02-02 15:24                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-03  7:28                               ` Itsuro Oda
2005-02-03  9:00                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-03 23:18                                   ` Itsuro Oda
2005-02-04  0:41                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-04  1:07                                     ` Itsuro Oda
2005-02-16  8:49                                   ` [PATCH] /proc/cpumem Itsuro Oda
2005-02-16 13:58                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-17  0:43                                       ` Itsuro Oda
2005-02-17  9:55                                         ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2005-02-18  6:17                                           ` [Fastboot] " Itsuro Oda
2005-02-18  7:22                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-17  0:17                                     ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2005-02-17  5:58                                     ` [Fastboot] " Vivek Goyal
2005-02-17  6:18                                       ` Itsuro Oda
2005-02-17 18:18                                     ` Dave Jones
2005-02-17 19:46                                       ` [Fastboot] " Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-02 14:26                           ` [Fastboot] [PATCH] Reserving backup region for kexec based crashdumps Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-02 10:07                         ` Vivek Goyal
2005-02-02 15:42                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-03 14:47                             ` Vivek Goyal
2005-02-01  8:04                 ` Koichi Suzuki
2005-02-01  9:06                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-02  7:42                     ` Itsuro Oda
2005-02-02 14:45                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-04  0:23                         ` Itsuro Oda
2005-02-04  1:55                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-02  9:08                     ` Koichi Suzuki
2005-02-02 14:31                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-03  7:02               ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2005-02-03  9:01                 ` Vivek Goyal
2005-02-03  9:37                   ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2005-02-03 10:07                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-03  9:13                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-03 10:10                   ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2005-02-03 10:39                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-04 10:05                       ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2005-02-04 11:17                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-04 12:02                           ` Eric W. Biederman

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