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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, vserver@list.linux-vserver.org,
	Herbert Poetzl <herbert@13thfloor.at>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Suleiman Souhlal <ssouhlal@FreeBSD.org>,
	Hubertus Franke <frankeh@watson.ibm.com>,
	Cedric Le Goater <clg@fr.ibm.com>,
	Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] pid: Implement task references.
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 14:58:51 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1mzhe7l2c.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060129190539.GA26794@kroah.com> (Greg KH's message of "Sun, 29 Jan 2006 11:05:39 -0800")

Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> writes:

> On Sun, Jan 29, 2006 at 12:22:34AM -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>> +struct task_ref
>> +{
>> +	atomic_t count;
>
> Please use a struct kref here, instead of your own atomic_t, as that's
> why it is in the kernel :)
>
>> +	enum pid_type type;
>> +	struct task_struct *task;
>> +};
>
> thanks,

I would rather not. Whenever I look at struct kref it seems to be an over
abstraction, and as such I find it confusing to work with.  I know
whenever I look at the sysfs code I have to actively remind myself
that the kref in the structure is not a pointer to a kref.

What does the kref abstraction buy?  How does it simplify things?
We already have equivalent functions in atomic_t on which it is built.

It is a funny piece of code to come up in this thread where the
argument has been don't over abstract.... (with reference to pids).

If I can see where struct kref buys something or helps in some way
I will be willing to consider it.

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2006-01-29 22:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-01-29  7:19 [RFC][PATCH 0/5] Task references Eric W. Biederman
2006-01-29  7:22 ` [PATCH 1/5] pid: Implement task references Eric W. Biederman
2006-01-29  7:24   ` [PATCH 2/5] pid: Add macros for interating through tasks by type Eric W. Biederman
2006-01-29  7:28     ` [PATCH 3/5] pid: Implement kill_tref Eric W. Biederman
2006-01-29  7:33       ` [PATCH 4/5] vt: Update spawnpid to use a task_ref Eric W. Biederman
2006-01-29  7:35         ` [PATCH 5/5] file: Modify struct fown_struct to contain a tref Eric W. Biederman
2006-01-29  8:43           ` Suleiman Souhlal
2006-01-29  9:18             ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-01-30 10:51         ` [PATCH 4/5] vt: Update spawnpid to use a task_ref Pavel Machek
2006-01-30 20:39           ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-01-30 21:05             ` Pavel Machek
2006-01-30 21:15               ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-01-29  8:46   ` [PATCH 1/5] pid: Implement task references Suleiman Souhlal
2006-01-29 19:05   ` Greg KH
2006-01-29 21:58     ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2006-01-30  4:51       ` Greg KH
2006-01-30  5:19         ` Eric Dumazet
2006-01-30  5:35           ` Kyle Moffett
2006-01-30  5:46             ` Eric Dumazet
2006-01-30  6:46               ` Kyle Moffett
2006-01-30 18:43           ` Greg KH
2006-01-30 19:58             ` Eric Dumazet
2006-01-30 20:45               ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-01-30 21:32                 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-01-30 21:51                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-01-30 20:13         ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-01-31  6:58           ` Greg KH
2006-01-31 16:04             ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-01-29  8:05 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/5] Task references Kyle Moffett
2006-02-06  8:09 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 14:36   ` Serge E. Hallyn

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