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From: "Huang, Kai" <kai.huang@intel.com>
To: "Gao, Chao" <chao.gao@intel.com>
Cc: "kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"ashish.kalra@amd.com" <ashish.kalra@amd.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/6] x86/kexec: Disable kexec/kdump on platforms with TDX partial write erratum
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2025 08:43:57 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <01d96257ed48bba14d9d0f786ea90f11eb9e7c7a.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aGTtCml5ycfoMUJc@intel.com>

On Wed, 2025-07-02 at 16:25 +0800, Gao, Chao wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 26, 2025 at 10:48:49PM +1200, Kai Huang wrote:
> > Some early TDX-capable platforms have an erratum: A kernel partial
> > write (a write transaction of less than cacheline lands at memory
> > controller) to TDX private memory poisons that memory, and a subsequent
> > read triggers a machine check.
> > 
> > On those platforms, the old kernel must reset TDX private memory before
> > jumping to the new kernel, otherwise the new kernel may see unexpected
> > machine check.  Currently the kernel doesn't track which page is a TDX
> > private page.  For simplicity just fail kexec/kdump for those platforms.
> 
> My understanding is that the kdump kernel uses a small amount of memory
> reserved at boot, which the crashed kernel never accesses. And the kdump
> kernel reads the memory of the crashed kernel and doesn't overwrite it.
> So it should be safe to allow kdump (i.e., no partial write to private
> memory). Anything I missed?
> 
> (I am not asking to enable kdump in *this* series; I'm just trying to
> understand the rationale behind disabling kdump)

As you said it *should* be safe.  The kdump kernel should only read TDX
private memory but not write.  But I cannot say I am 100% sure (there are
many things involved when generating the kdump file such as memory
compression) so in internal discussion we thought we should just disable it.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-02  8:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-26 10:48 [PATCH v3 0/6] TDX host: kexec/kdump support Kai Huang
2025-06-26 10:48 ` [PATCH v3 1/6] x86/sme: Use percpu boolean to control wbinvd during kexec Kai Huang
2025-06-26 17:59   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-26 18:42     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-27  0:30       ` Huang, Kai
2025-06-30  7:09         ` Binbin Wu
2025-06-27  0:37     ` Huang, Kai
2025-06-27  0:39       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-27  1:06         ` Huang, Kai
2025-06-27 15:08   ` Tom Lendacky
2025-06-30 11:35     ` Huang, Kai
2025-06-28 12:50   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-06-28 17:04     ` Tom Lendacky
2025-06-30 11:34       ` Huang, Kai
2025-06-30 11:34     ` Huang, Kai
2025-07-01 12:12       ` Borislav Petkov
2025-07-02  3:06         ` Huang, Kai
2025-06-26 10:48 ` [PATCH v3 2/6] x86/virt/tdx: Mark memory cache state incoherent when making SEAMCALL Kai Huang
2025-06-26 18:37   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-26 23:36     ` Huang, Kai
2025-06-27  0:52       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-27  1:47         ` Huang, Kai
2025-06-26 10:48 ` [PATCH v3 3/6] x86/kexec: Disable kexec/kdump on platforms with TDX partial write erratum Kai Huang
2025-06-26 18:49   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-01  5:37   ` Binbin Wu
2025-07-02  3:12     ` Huang, Kai
2025-07-02  8:25   ` Chao Gao
2025-07-02  8:43     ` Huang, Kai [this message]
2025-07-02 22:16       ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-02 23:57         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-26 10:48 ` [PATCH v3 4/6] x86/virt/tdx: Remove the !KEXEC_CORE dependency Kai Huang
2025-06-26 18:49   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-26 10:48 ` [PATCH v3 5/6] x86/virt/tdx: Update the kexec section in the TDX documentation Kai Huang
2025-06-26 18:51   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-26 10:48 ` [PATCH v3 6/6] KVM: TDX: Explicitly do WBINVD upon reboot notifier Kai Huang
2025-06-27  0:01   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-27  1:00     ` Huang, Kai
2025-07-01  6:09   ` Binbin Wu
2025-07-02  3:14     ` Huang, Kai
2025-07-02  7:54   ` Chao Gao
2025-07-02  9:22     ` Huang, Kai
2025-07-07 12:37     ` Huang, Kai

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