From: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
To: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>
Cc: "Bob Copeland" <me@bobcopeland.com>,
"Theodore Tso" <tytso@mit.edu>,
"Jörn Engel" <joern@lazybastard.org>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@infradead.org>,
"Ulrich Drepper" <drepper@gmail.com>,
"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: If not readdir() then what?
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 20:22:01 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1176250921.309.94.camel@heimdal.trondhjem.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17948.4289.176612.555587@notabene.brown>
On Wed, 2007-04-11 at 08:33 +1000, Neil Brown wrote:
> A READDIR (aka getdents2) should take a directory handle, a cookie,
> and a filename, and should return filenames and cookies. The
> cookies may all be identical or may not. The filename might be used
> by the filesystem, or it might not.
>
> Filesystems that require a cursor in the 'struct file' to support
> (local) getdents cannot be used with NFS.
>
> While it doesn't make it possible to support all conceivable
> filesystems, it should make it easier for some filesystems to support
> the demands of NFS.
In order to be useful, I think you need to add a demand that the READDIR
call cannot loop back on itself for the case of a series of sequential
reads.
IOW: if a client attempts to step sequentially through the directory,
and is supplying valid filenames+cookies from the preceding READDIR
call, then the next READDIR call should be guaranteed never to loop back
to an earlier entry. Alternatively, if there is a danger that it might
due to some sudden and radical change in the directory layout, then it
should notify the client by returning something like a BAD_COOKIE error.
Otherwise, the client would have to cache _all_ previous READDIR results
since the last opendir()/rewinddir() in order to be able to do its own
loop detection and that will obviously never scale for large directories
or for directories that change frequently...
Cheers
Trond
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-11 0:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-04-07 16:57 Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-07 20:36 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-07 23:30 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-08 18:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-08 18:41 ` Jörn Engel
2007-04-08 19:19 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-08 19:26 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-08 19:28 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-08 19:40 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-09 1:44 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-09 11:09 ` Jörn Engel
2007-04-09 12:29 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-09 12:31 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-09 13:19 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-09 14:03 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-09 16:34 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-09 17:00 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-10 13:56 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-10 14:10 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-10 15:48 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-10 16:42 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-10 14:37 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-10 15:54 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-10 16:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-10 16:25 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-04-10 21:12 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-10 21:16 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-10 21:43 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-10 21:18 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-10 21:37 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-10 21:57 ` Bob Copeland
2007-04-10 21:59 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-10 22:33 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-11 0:22 ` Trond Myklebust [this message]
2007-04-11 1:45 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2007-04-10 21:46 ` Alan Cox
2007-04-10 21:26 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-09 12:46 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-04-10 21:15 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-11 13:57 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-11 14:42 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-11 22:32 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-11 22:06 ` David Lang
2007-04-11 23:23 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-11 23:33 ` Jörn Engel
2007-04-12 0:00 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-11 23:22 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-12 1:46 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-12 2:37 ` Jörn Engel
2007-04-12 5:57 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-12 9:33 ` Jörn Engel
2007-04-12 12:21 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-12 17:18 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-04-12 17:35 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-16 3:05 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-16 5:47 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-16 10:39 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-16 6:18 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-16 11:07 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-16 23:24 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-08 18:47 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-08 19:13 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-08 18:50 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-07 23:44 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-08 20:36 ` J. Bruce Fields
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