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From: "Bob Copeland" <me@bobcopeland.com>
To: "Neil Brown" <neilb@suse.de>
Cc: "Trond Myklebust" <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>,
	"Theodore Tso" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	"Jörn Engel" <joern@lazybastard.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@infradead.org>,
	"Ulrich Drepper" <drepper@gmail.com>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: If not readdir() then what?
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 17:57:37 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b6c5339f0704101457x294d36bfg11088f807e9e2c48@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17948.916.464492.881283@notabene.brown>

On 4/10/07, Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de> wrote:
> 2/ Some data structure using an ordered search key that is based on
>   the filename (e.g. a B-tree with a search key that is a hash of the
>   filename).
>
> In the first case, you just use a fixed opaque cookie for location in
> a directory.
> In the second you use the filename.  If the file has been deleted,
> that shouldn't stop you finding the place where it would have been in
> the overall sort order.

I can think of one (admittedly insane) FS that is between those two:

3/ an unsorted hash table, where each directory entry has an indirect
pointer to its neighbor in case of hash collisions.

   a
   b -> d -> c -> e
   g
   f -> x

Given 'c' as the "last" thing returned, you can hash c to find out
that you are in the bucket with 'b', but if 'c' was deleted, the best
you can do is return b twice or skip the chain entirely.  I maintain
an out-of-tree driver for such an fs (I promise I did not invent it);
the best I could come up with is to encode the hash chain index in the
top byte of f_pos.   Needless to say, readdir is very not performant
with all the seeking this hash scheme entails.

-Bob

  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-10 21:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-07 16:57 Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-07 20:36 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-07 23:30   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-08 18:11     ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-08 18:41       ` Jörn Engel
2007-04-08 19:19         ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-08 19:26           ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-08 19:28           ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-08 19:40             ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-09  1:44             ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-09 11:09               ` Jörn Engel
2007-04-09 12:29                 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-09 12:31                 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-09 13:19                   ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-09 14:03                     ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-09 16:34                       ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-09 17:00                         ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-10 13:56                       ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-10 14:10                         ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-10 15:48                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-10 16:42                             ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-10 14:37                         ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-10 15:54                           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-10 16:18                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-10 16:25                             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-04-10 21:12                           ` Neil Brown
2007-04-10 21:16                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-10 21:43                               ` Neil Brown
2007-04-10 21:18                             ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-10 21:37                               ` Neil Brown
2007-04-10 21:57                                 ` Bob Copeland [this message]
2007-04-10 21:59                                 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-10 22:33                                   ` Neil Brown
2007-04-11  0:22                                     ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-11  1:45                                       ` Bernd Eckenfels
2007-04-10 21:46                             ` Alan Cox
2007-04-10 21:26                     ` Neil Brown
2007-04-09 12:46                 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-04-10 21:15         ` Neil Brown
2007-04-11 13:57           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-11 14:42           ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-11 22:32             ` Neil Brown
2007-04-11 22:06               ` David Lang
2007-04-11 23:23                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-11 23:33                   ` Jörn Engel
2007-04-12  0:00                 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-11 23:22               ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-12  1:46                 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-12  2:37                   ` Jörn Engel
2007-04-12  5:57                     ` Neil Brown
2007-04-12  9:33                       ` Jörn Engel
2007-04-12 12:21                       ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-12 17:18                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-04-12 17:35                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-16  3:05                             ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-16  5:47                               ` Neil Brown
2007-04-16 10:39                                 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-16  6:18                         ` Neil Brown
2007-04-16 11:07                           ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-16 23:24                             ` Neil Brown
2007-04-08 18:47       ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-08 19:13         ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-08 18:50     ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-07 23:44   ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-08 20:36   ` J. Bruce Fields

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