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From: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>
To: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: "Trond Myklebust" <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>,
	"Jörn Engel" <joern@lazybastard.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@infradead.org>,
	"Ulrich Drepper" <drepper@gmail.com>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: If not readdir() then what?
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 07:26:43 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <17948.275.59001.855822@notabene.brown> (raw)
In-Reply-To: message from Theodore Tso on Monday April 9

On Monday April 9, tytso@mit.edu wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 08:31:37AM -0400, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> > That is a protocol limitation, not a client limitation.
> 
> <Groan>
> 
> And after quickly checking RFC 3010, I see this limitation hasn't been
> lifted in NFSv4.
> 
> Speaking of which, right now ext3 doesn't know whether it's talking to
> an NFSv2 or NFS v3/v4 server, so it's always passing a 32-bit cookie.
> If NFSv3/v4 could use an explicit interface to request a 64-bit
> cookie, instead of just relying on the f_pos field in the file handle,
> we can reduce the chance of hash collisions when reading an ext3
> directory significantly.   
> 

We don't use f_pos (any more), we call llseek.

I think it would make a lot of sense - as Trond suggests - to not pass
O_LARGEFILE to dentry_open for an NFSv2 request.  Then ext3 could
trigger off that and return 64bits of cookie ... and I think nfsd will
actually pass them all back to the client now.  There is a
truncate-to-32bits bug that has only just been fixed.

But if a separate call is wanted, we have the export_operations struct
to put it in.  All we need is a good case an useful specification.


> If there are 2 or 3 directory entries that have a hash collision,
> would the NFS protocol allow the server to juggle things so that those
> 2-3 directory entries with the hash collision are sent back in a
> single readdir RPC reply?  Is it aceptable/legal to have multiple
> entries in the same READDIR reply packet have the same cookie value?

I think Trond has answered this, but I think it is also worth noting
that every entry returned in a READDIR reply includes a cookie, the
NFS client may use any of those cookies in a subsequent READDIR.  One
might hope the client will only ever use the last, but one can never
be sure....


NeilBrown

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-04-10 21:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-07 16:57 Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-07 20:36 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-07 23:30   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-08 18:11     ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-08 18:41       ` Jörn Engel
2007-04-08 19:19         ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-08 19:26           ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-08 19:28           ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-08 19:40             ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-09  1:44             ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-09 11:09               ` Jörn Engel
2007-04-09 12:29                 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-09 12:31                 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-09 13:19                   ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-09 14:03                     ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-09 16:34                       ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-09 17:00                         ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-10 13:56                       ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-10 14:10                         ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-10 15:48                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-10 16:42                             ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-10 14:37                         ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-10 15:54                           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-10 16:18                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-10 16:25                             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-04-10 21:12                           ` Neil Brown
2007-04-10 21:16                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-10 21:43                               ` Neil Brown
2007-04-10 21:18                             ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-10 21:37                               ` Neil Brown
2007-04-10 21:57                                 ` Bob Copeland
2007-04-10 21:59                                 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-10 22:33                                   ` Neil Brown
2007-04-11  0:22                                     ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-11  1:45                                       ` Bernd Eckenfels
2007-04-10 21:46                             ` Alan Cox
2007-04-10 21:26                     ` Neil Brown [this message]
2007-04-09 12:46                 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-04-10 21:15         ` Neil Brown
2007-04-11 13:57           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-11 14:42           ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-11 22:32             ` Neil Brown
2007-04-11 22:06               ` David Lang
2007-04-11 23:23                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-11 23:33                   ` Jörn Engel
2007-04-12  0:00                 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-11 23:22               ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-12  1:46                 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-12  2:37                   ` Jörn Engel
2007-04-12  5:57                     ` Neil Brown
2007-04-12  9:33                       ` Jörn Engel
2007-04-12 12:21                       ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-12 17:18                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-04-12 17:35                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-16  3:05                             ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-16  5:47                               ` Neil Brown
2007-04-16 10:39                                 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-16  6:18                         ` Neil Brown
2007-04-16 11:07                           ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-16 23:24                             ` Neil Brown
2007-04-08 18:47       ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-08 19:13         ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-08 18:50     ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-07 23:44   ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-08 20:36   ` J. Bruce Fields

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