From: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>
To: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: "Trond Myklebust" <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>,
"Jörn Engel" <joern@lazybastard.org>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@infradead.org>,
"Ulrich Drepper" <drepper@gmail.com>,
"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: If not readdir() then what?
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 07:26:43 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <17948.275.59001.855822@notabene.brown> (raw)
In-Reply-To: message from Theodore Tso on Monday April 9
On Monday April 9, tytso@mit.edu wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 08:31:37AM -0400, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> > That is a protocol limitation, not a client limitation.
>
> <Groan>
>
> And after quickly checking RFC 3010, I see this limitation hasn't been
> lifted in NFSv4.
>
> Speaking of which, right now ext3 doesn't know whether it's talking to
> an NFSv2 or NFS v3/v4 server, so it's always passing a 32-bit cookie.
> If NFSv3/v4 could use an explicit interface to request a 64-bit
> cookie, instead of just relying on the f_pos field in the file handle,
> we can reduce the chance of hash collisions when reading an ext3
> directory significantly.
>
We don't use f_pos (any more), we call llseek.
I think it would make a lot of sense - as Trond suggests - to not pass
O_LARGEFILE to dentry_open for an NFSv2 request. Then ext3 could
trigger off that and return 64bits of cookie ... and I think nfsd will
actually pass them all back to the client now. There is a
truncate-to-32bits bug that has only just been fixed.
But if a separate call is wanted, we have the export_operations struct
to put it in. All we need is a good case an useful specification.
> If there are 2 or 3 directory entries that have a hash collision,
> would the NFS protocol allow the server to juggle things so that those
> 2-3 directory entries with the hash collision are sent back in a
> single readdir RPC reply? Is it aceptable/legal to have multiple
> entries in the same READDIR reply packet have the same cookie value?
I think Trond has answered this, but I think it is also worth noting
that every entry returned in a READDIR reply includes a cookie, the
NFS client may use any of those cookies in a subsequent READDIR. One
might hope the client will only ever use the last, but one can never
be sure....
NeilBrown
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-10 21:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-04-07 16:57 Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-07 20:36 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-07 23:30 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-08 18:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-08 18:41 ` Jörn Engel
2007-04-08 19:19 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-08 19:26 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-08 19:28 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-08 19:40 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-09 1:44 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-09 11:09 ` Jörn Engel
2007-04-09 12:29 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-09 12:31 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-09 13:19 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-09 14:03 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-09 16:34 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-09 17:00 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-10 13:56 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-10 14:10 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-10 15:48 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-10 16:42 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-10 14:37 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-10 15:54 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-10 16:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-10 16:25 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-04-10 21:12 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-10 21:16 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-10 21:43 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-10 21:18 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-10 21:37 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-10 21:57 ` Bob Copeland
2007-04-10 21:59 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-10 22:33 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-11 0:22 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-11 1:45 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2007-04-10 21:46 ` Alan Cox
2007-04-10 21:26 ` Neil Brown [this message]
2007-04-09 12:46 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-04-10 21:15 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-11 13:57 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-11 14:42 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-11 22:32 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-11 22:06 ` David Lang
2007-04-11 23:23 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-11 23:33 ` Jörn Engel
2007-04-12 0:00 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-11 23:22 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-12 1:46 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-12 2:37 ` Jörn Engel
2007-04-12 5:57 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-12 9:33 ` Jörn Engel
2007-04-12 12:21 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-12 17:18 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-04-12 17:35 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-16 3:05 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-16 5:47 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-16 10:39 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-16 6:18 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-16 11:07 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-16 23:24 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-08 18:47 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-08 19:13 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-08 18:50 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-07 23:44 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-08 20:36 ` J. Bruce Fields
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