From: "Jörn Engel" <joern@lazybastard.org>
To: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>
Cc: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Ulrich Drepper <drepper@gmail.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: If not readdir() then what?
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 04:37:12 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070412023712.GA8175@lazybastard.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17949.36737.701327.104172@notabene.brown>
On Thu, 12 April 2007 11:46:41 +1000, Neil Brown wrote:
>
> I could argue that nfs came before ext3+dirindex, so ext3 should have
> been designed to work properly with NFS. You could argue that fixing
> it in nfsd fixes it for all filesystems. But I'm not sure either of
> those arguments are likely to be at all convincing...
Caring about a non-ext3 filesystem, I sure would like an nfs solution as
well. :)
> Hmmm. I wonder. Which is more likely?
> - That two 64bit hashes from some set are the same
> - or that 65536 48bit hashes from a set of equal size are the same.
The former. Each bit going from hash strength to collision chain length
reduces the likelihood of an overflow. In the extreme case of a 0bit
hash and 64bit collision chain, you need 2^64 entries compared to 2^32
for the other extreme.
However, the collision chain gives me quite a bit of headache. One
would have to store each entry's position on the chain, deal with older
entries getting deleted, newer entries getting removed, etc. All this
requires a lot of complicated code that basically never gets tested in
the wild.
Just settling for a 64bit hash and returning -EEXIST when someone causes
a collision an creat() sounds more appealing. Directories with 4
billion entries will cause problems, but that is hardly news to anyone.
Jörn
--
Fantasy is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited,
while fantasy embraces the whole world.
-- Albert Einstein
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-12 2:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-04-07 16:57 Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-07 20:36 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-07 23:30 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-08 18:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-08 18:41 ` Jörn Engel
2007-04-08 19:19 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-08 19:26 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-08 19:28 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-08 19:40 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-09 1:44 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-09 11:09 ` Jörn Engel
2007-04-09 12:29 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-09 12:31 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-09 13:19 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-09 14:03 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-09 16:34 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-09 17:00 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-10 13:56 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-10 14:10 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-10 15:48 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-10 16:42 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-10 14:37 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-10 15:54 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-10 16:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-10 16:25 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-04-10 21:12 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-10 21:16 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-10 21:43 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-10 21:18 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-10 21:37 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-10 21:57 ` Bob Copeland
2007-04-10 21:59 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-10 22:33 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-11 0:22 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-11 1:45 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2007-04-10 21:46 ` Alan Cox
2007-04-10 21:26 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-09 12:46 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-04-10 21:15 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-11 13:57 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-11 14:42 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-11 22:32 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-11 22:06 ` David Lang
2007-04-11 23:23 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-11 23:33 ` Jörn Engel
2007-04-12 0:00 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-11 23:22 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-12 1:46 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-12 2:37 ` Jörn Engel [this message]
2007-04-12 5:57 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-12 9:33 ` Jörn Engel
2007-04-12 12:21 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-12 17:18 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-04-12 17:35 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-16 3:05 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-16 5:47 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-16 10:39 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-16 6:18 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-16 11:07 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-16 23:24 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-08 18:47 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-08 19:13 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-08 18:50 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-07 23:44 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-08 20:36 ` J. Bruce Fields
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