From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>, Alan Cox <alan@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: 64bit clean drivers was Re: Linux 2.4.20-pre1
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 12:41:53 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020807124153.A8592@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1028721043.18478.265.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk>
On Wed, Aug 07, 2002 at 12:50:43PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> On Wed, 2002-08-07 at 11:01, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > Can you explain this further. How else do you propose to get rid of
> > unmaintained-and-absolutely-hopeless-on-64bit drivers in the configuration?
> > I definitely do not want to get bug reports about these not working on x86-64.
>
> I don't want a tree where every driver has seventeen lines of if IBM and
> not 64bit || parisc || x86 || !x86_64 || ia64) && (!wednesdayafternoon)
>
> Its *unmaintainable*.
I don't see why it is unmaintainable. What is so bad with these ifs?
64bit cleanness is just another dependency, nothing magic and fundamentally
hard.
I admit it is a bit ugly to hardcode CONFIG_X86_64 here, I would actually
prefer an generic CONFIG_64BIT
At least for i386 it should make no difference at all.
If you object to the ifdefs I can turn it into
dep_tristate ... $CONFIG_X86_32 (or CONFIG_I386 and add this)
(unfortunately there is no dep_tristate ... !$CONFIG_64BIT)
Alternatively CONFIG_NO_64BIT to work around this issue.
>
> The sparc64 people don't do it, the mips people don't do it, the ia64
> people don't do it, wtf should you get to fill config.in with crap
The main reason I'm doing this is that unlike IA64,alpha,mips (sorry no
offense to these ports) x86-64 is aimed at the mass market. I will
not invoke the A..T... word, but having a configuration where a good
chunk of the drivers do not work is just not acceptable for x86-64 where
even non kernel hackers will likely recompile the kernels. I tried
to fix it for some of the drivers but some are obviously hopeless without
major work.
> The _ISA stuff makes sense, thats sensible, but the rest - when people
> moan we tell em to fix the drivers.
I don't think it is very nice. Some of these actually compile, just with
thousands of warnings, but will oops very quickly likely after first load.
I prefer to disable them. That is much nicer to the user.
-Andi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-08-07 10:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <200208062329.g76NTqP30962@devserv.devel.redhat.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2002-08-07 10:01 ` Andi Kleen
2002-08-07 11:50 ` Alan Cox
2002-08-07 10:41 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2002-08-07 12:16 ` 64bit clean drivers was " Alan Cox
2002-08-07 11:04 ` Andi Kleen
2002-08-07 11:10 ` Alan Cox
2002-08-07 11:18 ` Andi Kleen
2002-08-07 11:51 ` Alan Cox
2002-08-07 11:56 ` Andi Kleen
2002-08-07 13:26 ` Alan Cox
2002-08-07 16:28 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-08-08 15:14 ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-08 16:49 ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-08-08 16:47 ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-09 4:15 ` [patch] config language dep_* enhancements Peter Samuelson
2002-08-09 14:43 ` [kbuild-devel] " Greg Banks
2002-08-09 15:38 ` Andreas Schwab
2002-08-12 10:38 ` Greg Banks
2002-08-09 16:10 ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-12 11:04 ` Greg Banks
2002-08-12 14:46 ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-08-12 19:45 ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-12 21:40 ` [kbuild-devel] " Tom Rini
2002-08-12 22:13 ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-12 22:15 ` Tom Rini
2002-08-12 22:32 ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-12 22:47 ` Tom Rini
2002-08-12 23:17 ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-12 23:32 ` Tom Rini
2002-08-13 3:35 ` Greg Banks
2002-08-13 0:03 ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-13 7:54 ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-13 3:33 ` Greg Banks
2002-08-13 9:32 ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-13 10:32 ` [kbuild-devel] " Greg Banks
[not found] ` <3D587483.1C459694@alphalink.com.au>
2002-08-13 3:39 ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-13 4:31 ` Greg Banks
2002-08-13 14:00 ` [kbuild-devel] " Greg Banks
2002-08-13 15:53 ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-13 18:48 ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-08-14 1:13 ` Greg Banks
2002-08-14 3:28 ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-14 4:35 ` [patch] kernel config 3/N - move sound into drivers/media Peter Samuelson
2002-08-14 5:08 ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-08-14 5:49 ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-14 10:56 ` [kbuild-devel] " Arnd Bergmann
2002-08-14 12:20 ` S390 vs S390x, was " Christoph Hellwig
2002-08-14 17:21 ` Arnd Bergmann
2002-08-14 18:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-08-14 21:18 ` Arnd Bergmann
2002-08-14 19:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-08-14 22:52 ` Arnd Bergmann
2002-08-14 6:14 ` Greg Banks
2002-08-14 6:31 ` Greg Banks
2002-08-14 8:16 ` Russell King
2002-08-14 6:01 ` [kbuild-devel] Re: [patch] config language dep_* enhancements Greg Banks
2002-08-14 8:18 ` Russell King
2002-08-14 14:22 ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-15 1:28 ` Greg Banks
2002-08-15 2:33 ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-15 3:27 ` Greg Banks
2002-08-13 18:43 ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-08-13 20:48 ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-14 1:27 ` Greg Banks
2002-08-14 1:42 ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-14 2:27 ` Greg Banks
2002-08-14 2:57 ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-14 4:39 ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-08-14 5:35 ` Greg Banks
2002-08-14 11:40 ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-15 1:52 ` [kbuild-devel] " Greg Banks
2002-08-15 3:30 ` John Alvord
2002-08-16 2:24 ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-15 9:46 ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-15 14:43 ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-08-15 20:12 ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-16 2:08 ` Greg Banks
2002-08-16 10:54 ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-19 9:27 ` Greg Banks
2002-08-19 10:20 ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-20 14:10 ` Greg Banks
2002-08-20 17:51 ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-19 20:30 ` Sam Ravnborg
2002-08-20 14:28 ` David Woodhouse
2002-08-23 15:18 ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-08-23 23:03 ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-24 12:43 ` Greg Banks
2002-08-14 1:19 ` Greg Banks
2002-08-12 15:47 ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-13 3:23 ` [kbuild-devel] " Greg Banks
2002-08-13 16:04 ` Sam Ravnborg
2002-08-13 16:20 ` [kbuild-devel] " Peter Samuelson
2002-08-14 0:22 ` Greg Banks
2002-08-14 20:14 ` Get rid of shell based Config.in parsers? Sam Ravnborg
2002-08-14 22:21 ` [kbuild-devel] " Peter Samuelson
2002-08-15 17:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-08 23:57 ` 64bit clean drivers was Re: Linux 2.4.20-pre1 Thunder from the hill
2002-08-08 19:23 ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-08 20:03 ` Andi Kleen
2002-08-08 20:19 ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-08 17:42 ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-09 10:21 ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-09 11:47 ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-09 12:07 ` Russell King
2002-08-09 12:49 ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-09 14:53 ` [kbuild-devel] " Greg Banks
2002-08-09 22:37 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-08-08 20:37 ` Andi Kleen
2002-08-08 20:51 ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-07 17:31 ` Thunder from the hill
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