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From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>, Alan Cox <alan@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 64bit clean drivers was Re: Linux 2.4.20-pre1
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 13:04:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020807130417.A19231@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1028722608.18156.280.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk>

On Wed, Aug 07, 2002 at 01:16:48PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> On Wed, 2002-08-07 at 11:41, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > I don't see why it is unmaintainable. What is so bad with these ifs? 
> > 64bit cleanness is just another dependency, nothing magic and fundamentally
> > hard.
> 
> Lets take I2O block the if rule would
> 
> if [ $CONFIG_X86 = "y" -a $CONFIG_X86_64 != "y" ] 
> 	dep_bool ...  


dep_bool .... $CONFIG_X86_32

Would that be acceptable for you?  (ok that would not cover ppc32 for 
example, but they may have other issues with the driver) 
				  
> The actual rule being if 32bit little endian || 64bit little endian with
> kernel memory objects always below 4Gb and having PCI bus

I don't see it as a that big problem. It just needs a few more negated
generic symbols defined (e.g. CONFIG_32BIT CONFIG_4GB_ONLY 
CONFIG_LITTLE_ENDIAN), then it could be easily expressed with dep_... even 
in the traditional configuration language. I also don't think it would
be particularly unmaintainable to have these things in Config.

> 
> 
> Thats just one non too complicated driver. CML1 can't handle this
> scalably, maybe CML2 could have. 
> 
> Secondly you actually want people to discover stuff doesn't work so you
> can persuade them to go and fix it. Stick up a 'Good/Probably

They will discover it when they don't find a driver for an device and
can then find the disabled configuration and look into fixing it
(for someone able to fix the driver checking the configuration should
be trivial) 

In my opinion it is just not acceptable when the enable the driver by
mistake or load the wrong module and it crashes.

> Ok/Bad/Hopeless' driver listing on x86_64.org, then once Hammer becomes
> in general use post it to the janitor list now and then

That will be likely done anyways, but it is not enough.

-Andi

  reply	other threads:[~2002-08-07 11:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200208062329.g76NTqP30962@devserv.devel.redhat.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2002-08-07 10:01 ` Andi Kleen
2002-08-07 11:50   ` Alan Cox
2002-08-07 10:41     ` 64bit clean drivers was " Andi Kleen
2002-08-07 12:16       ` Alan Cox
2002-08-07 11:04         ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2002-08-07 11:10           ` Alan Cox
2002-08-07 11:18             ` Andi Kleen
2002-08-07 11:51               ` Alan Cox
2002-08-07 11:56                 ` Andi Kleen
2002-08-07 13:26                   ` Alan Cox
2002-08-07 16:28                     ` Jeff Garzik
2002-08-08 15:14         ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-08 16:49           ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-08-08 16:47             ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-09  4:15               ` [patch] config language dep_* enhancements Peter Samuelson
2002-08-09 14:43                 ` [kbuild-devel] " Greg Banks
2002-08-09 15:38                   ` Andreas Schwab
2002-08-12 10:38                     ` Greg Banks
2002-08-09 16:10                   ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-12 11:04                     ` Greg Banks
2002-08-12 14:46                       ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-08-12 19:45                         ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-12 21:40                           ` [kbuild-devel] " Tom Rini
2002-08-12 22:13                             ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-12 22:15                               ` Tom Rini
2002-08-12 22:32                                 ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-12 22:47                                   ` Tom Rini
2002-08-12 23:17                                     ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-12 23:32                                       ` Tom Rini
2002-08-13  3:35                                       ` Greg Banks
2002-08-13  0:03                           ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-13  7:54                             ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-13  3:33                           ` Greg Banks
2002-08-13  9:32                             ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-13 10:32                               ` [kbuild-devel] " Greg Banks
     [not found]                         ` <3D587483.1C459694@alphalink.com.au>
2002-08-13  3:39                           ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-13  4:31                             ` Greg Banks
2002-08-13 14:00                             ` [kbuild-devel] " Greg Banks
2002-08-13 15:53                               ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-13 18:48                                 ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-08-14  1:13                                 ` Greg Banks
2002-08-14  3:28                                   ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-14  4:35                                     ` [patch] kernel config 3/N - move sound into drivers/media Peter Samuelson
2002-08-14  5:08                                       ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-08-14  5:49                                         ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-14 10:56                                           ` [kbuild-devel] " Arnd Bergmann
2002-08-14 12:20                                             ` S390 vs S390x, was " Christoph Hellwig
2002-08-14 17:21                                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2002-08-14 18:16                                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-08-14 21:18                                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2002-08-14 19:22                                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-08-14 22:52                                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2002-08-14  6:14                                         ` Greg Banks
2002-08-14  6:31                                       ` Greg Banks
2002-08-14  8:16                                       ` Russell King
2002-08-14  6:01                                     ` [kbuild-devel] Re: [patch] config language dep_* enhancements Greg Banks
2002-08-14  8:18                                       ` Russell King
2002-08-14 14:22                                       ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-15  1:28                                         ` Greg Banks
2002-08-15  2:33                                           ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-15  3:27                                             ` Greg Banks
2002-08-13 18:43                           ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-08-13 20:48                             ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-14  1:27                               ` Greg Banks
2002-08-14  1:42                                 ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-14  2:27                                   ` Greg Banks
2002-08-14  2:57                                     ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-14  4:39                                     ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-08-14  5:35                                       ` Greg Banks
2002-08-14 11:40                               ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-15  1:52                                 ` [kbuild-devel] " Greg Banks
2002-08-15  3:30                                   ` John Alvord
2002-08-16  2:24                                     ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-15  9:46                                   ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-15 14:43                                     ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-08-15 20:12                                       ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-16  2:08                                     ` Greg Banks
2002-08-16 10:54                                       ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-19  9:27                                         ` Greg Banks
2002-08-19 10:20                                           ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-20 14:10                                             ` Greg Banks
2002-08-20 17:51                                               ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-19 20:30                                           ` Sam Ravnborg
2002-08-20 14:28                                           ` David Woodhouse
2002-08-23 15:18                                           ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-08-23 23:03                                             ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-24 12:43                                               ` Greg Banks
2002-08-14  1:19                             ` Greg Banks
2002-08-12 15:47                       ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-13  3:23                         ` [kbuild-devel] " Greg Banks
2002-08-13 16:04                           ` Sam Ravnborg
2002-08-13 16:20                             ` [kbuild-devel] " Peter Samuelson
2002-08-14  0:22                             ` Greg Banks
2002-08-14 20:14                               ` Get rid of shell based Config.in parsers? Sam Ravnborg
2002-08-14 22:21                                 ` [kbuild-devel] " Peter Samuelson
2002-08-15 17:51                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-08 23:57             ` 64bit clean drivers was Re: Linux 2.4.20-pre1 Thunder from the hill
2002-08-08 19:23           ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-08 20:03             ` Andi Kleen
2002-08-08 20:19               ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-08 17:42                 ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-09 10:21                   ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-09 11:47                     ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-09 12:07                       ` Russell King
2002-08-09 12:49                         ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-09 14:53                           ` [kbuild-devel] " Greg Banks
2002-08-09 22:37                             ` Thunder from the hill
2002-08-08 20:37                 ` Andi Kleen
2002-08-08 20:51                   ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-07 17:31       ` Thunder from the hill

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