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From: Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	Greg Banks <gnb@alphalink.com.au>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kbuild-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Get rid of shell based Config.in parsers?
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 22:14:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020814221400.A1562@mars.ravnborg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3D59A2DF.3DDA38E8@alphalink.com.au>; from gnb@alphalink.com.au on Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 10:22:55AM +1000

On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 10:22:55AM +1000, Greg Banks wrote:
> The trouble is actually achieving that in shell-based parsers where
> shell code cannot tell whether $CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL has been used in
> a condition.

Where comes the requirement that we shall keep the existing shell 
based config parsers?

Remembering the CML2 war there were no serious objections about
shifting away from shell based parsers (but certainly a lot about the
alternative selected).

It is possible to replace Configure and menuconfig rather easy
and then see if a new xconfig showed up based on the new parsers.
This would allow us to do much more advanced semantic checks, and
give proper warnings to catch errors early.
The first versions should obviously not introduce new syntax, that
should evolve over time.


I dislike seeing arguments that this is not easy/possible in shell based
parsers. If the chosen technology does not fit the problem domain
then it's about time to shift technology.

	Sam

  reply	other threads:[~2002-08-14 20:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200208062329.g76NTqP30962@devserv.devel.redhat.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2002-08-07 10:01 ` Linux 2.4.20-pre1 Andi Kleen
2002-08-07 11:50   ` Alan Cox
2002-08-07 10:41     ` 64bit clean drivers was " Andi Kleen
2002-08-07 12:16       ` Alan Cox
2002-08-07 11:04         ` Andi Kleen
2002-08-07 11:10           ` Alan Cox
2002-08-07 11:18             ` Andi Kleen
2002-08-07 11:51               ` Alan Cox
2002-08-07 11:56                 ` Andi Kleen
2002-08-07 13:26                   ` Alan Cox
2002-08-07 16:28                     ` Jeff Garzik
2002-08-08 15:14         ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-08 16:49           ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-08-08 16:47             ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-09  4:15               ` [patch] config language dep_* enhancements Peter Samuelson
2002-08-09 14:43                 ` [kbuild-devel] " Greg Banks
2002-08-09 15:38                   ` Andreas Schwab
2002-08-12 10:38                     ` Greg Banks
2002-08-09 16:10                   ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-12 11:04                     ` Greg Banks
2002-08-12 14:46                       ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-08-12 19:45                         ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-12 21:40                           ` [kbuild-devel] " Tom Rini
2002-08-12 22:13                             ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-12 22:15                               ` Tom Rini
2002-08-12 22:32                                 ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-12 22:47                                   ` Tom Rini
2002-08-12 23:17                                     ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-12 23:32                                       ` Tom Rini
2002-08-13  3:35                                       ` Greg Banks
2002-08-13  0:03                           ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-13  7:54                             ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-13  3:33                           ` Greg Banks
2002-08-13  9:32                             ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-13 10:32                               ` [kbuild-devel] " Greg Banks
     [not found]                         ` <3D587483.1C459694@alphalink.com.au>
2002-08-13  3:39                           ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-13  4:31                             ` Greg Banks
2002-08-13 14:00                             ` [kbuild-devel] " Greg Banks
2002-08-13 15:53                               ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-13 18:48                                 ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-08-14  1:13                                 ` Greg Banks
2002-08-14  3:28                                   ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-14  4:35                                     ` [patch] kernel config 3/N - move sound into drivers/media Peter Samuelson
2002-08-14  5:08                                       ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-08-14  5:49                                         ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-14 10:56                                           ` [kbuild-devel] " Arnd Bergmann
2002-08-14 12:20                                             ` S390 vs S390x, was " Christoph Hellwig
2002-08-14 17:21                                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2002-08-14 18:16                                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-08-14 21:18                                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2002-08-14 19:22                                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-08-14 22:52                                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2002-08-14  6:14                                         ` Greg Banks
2002-08-14  6:31                                       ` Greg Banks
2002-08-14  8:16                                       ` Russell King
2002-08-14  6:01                                     ` [kbuild-devel] Re: [patch] config language dep_* enhancements Greg Banks
2002-08-14  8:18                                       ` Russell King
2002-08-14 14:22                                       ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-15  1:28                                         ` Greg Banks
2002-08-15  2:33                                           ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-15  3:27                                             ` Greg Banks
2002-08-13 18:43                           ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-08-13 20:48                             ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-14  1:27                               ` Greg Banks
2002-08-14  1:42                                 ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-14  2:27                                   ` Greg Banks
2002-08-14  2:57                                     ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-14  4:39                                     ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-08-14  5:35                                       ` Greg Banks
2002-08-14 11:40                               ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-15  1:52                                 ` [kbuild-devel] " Greg Banks
2002-08-15  3:30                                   ` John Alvord
2002-08-16  2:24                                     ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-15  9:46                                   ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-15 14:43                                     ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-08-15 20:12                                       ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-16  2:08                                     ` Greg Banks
2002-08-16 10:54                                       ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-19  9:27                                         ` Greg Banks
2002-08-19 10:20                                           ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-20 14:10                                             ` Greg Banks
2002-08-20 17:51                                               ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-19 20:30                                           ` Sam Ravnborg
2002-08-20 14:28                                           ` David Woodhouse
2002-08-23 15:18                                           ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-08-23 23:03                                             ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-24 12:43                                               ` Greg Banks
2002-08-14  1:19                             ` Greg Banks
2002-08-12 15:47                       ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-13  3:23                         ` [kbuild-devel] " Greg Banks
2002-08-13 16:04                           ` Sam Ravnborg
2002-08-13 16:20                             ` [kbuild-devel] " Peter Samuelson
2002-08-14  0:22                             ` Greg Banks
2002-08-14 20:14                               ` Sam Ravnborg [this message]
2002-08-14 22:21                                 ` [kbuild-devel] Get rid of shell based Config.in parsers? Peter Samuelson
2002-08-15 17:51                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-08 23:57             ` 64bit clean drivers was Re: Linux 2.4.20-pre1 Thunder from the hill
2002-08-08 19:23           ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-08 20:03             ` Andi Kleen
2002-08-08 20:19               ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-08 17:42                 ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-09 10:21                   ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-09 11:47                     ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-09 12:07                       ` Russell King
2002-08-09 12:49                         ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-09 14:53                           ` [kbuild-devel] " Greg Banks
2002-08-09 22:37                             ` Thunder from the hill
2002-08-08 20:37                 ` Andi Kleen
2002-08-08 20:51                   ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-07 17:31       ` Thunder from the hill

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