From: Peter Samuelson <peter@cadcamlab.org>
To: John Alvord <jalvo@mbay.net>
Cc: Greg Banks <gnb@alphalink.com.au>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kbuild-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: [patch] config language dep_* enhancements
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 21:24:47 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020816022447.GO17969@cadcamlab.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <as7mlucq38obgsecg8kbh3vqjqiiic35bl@4ax.com>
[John Alvord]
> I've been puzzling about this problem and the CML2 trainwreck.
>
> Maybe we can used advanced tools to remove the many bugs and
> inconsistancies and then switch to a better config tool.
That's exactly what we're trying to do. Greg has the advanced
consistency checking, and I've been trying to remove ambiguities and
warts in the current rule corpus, and simultaneously come up with some
extensions to the current language that will let us remove *more*
warts. The extensions are designed to completely supplant certain
existing constructs which I consider ugly and difficult to parse.
To paraphrase Orwell: it was intended that when Newspeak had been
adopted once and for all and Oldspeak forgotten, a buggy parser should
be literally unimplementable, at least so far as implementation is
dependent on clear syntax and reasonable semantics.
Peter
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-08-16 2:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <200208062329.g76NTqP30962@devserv.devel.redhat.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2002-08-07 10:01 ` Linux 2.4.20-pre1 Andi Kleen
2002-08-07 11:50 ` Alan Cox
2002-08-07 10:41 ` 64bit clean drivers was " Andi Kleen
2002-08-07 12:16 ` Alan Cox
2002-08-07 11:04 ` Andi Kleen
2002-08-07 11:10 ` Alan Cox
2002-08-07 11:18 ` Andi Kleen
2002-08-07 11:51 ` Alan Cox
2002-08-07 11:56 ` Andi Kleen
2002-08-07 13:26 ` Alan Cox
2002-08-07 16:28 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-08-08 15:14 ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-08 16:49 ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-08-08 16:47 ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-09 4:15 ` [patch] config language dep_* enhancements Peter Samuelson
2002-08-09 14:43 ` [kbuild-devel] " Greg Banks
2002-08-09 15:38 ` Andreas Schwab
2002-08-12 10:38 ` Greg Banks
2002-08-09 16:10 ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-12 11:04 ` Greg Banks
2002-08-12 14:46 ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-08-12 19:45 ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-12 21:40 ` [kbuild-devel] " Tom Rini
2002-08-12 22:13 ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-12 22:15 ` Tom Rini
2002-08-12 22:32 ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-12 22:47 ` Tom Rini
2002-08-12 23:17 ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-12 23:32 ` Tom Rini
2002-08-13 3:35 ` Greg Banks
2002-08-13 0:03 ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-13 7:54 ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-13 3:33 ` Greg Banks
2002-08-13 9:32 ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-13 10:32 ` [kbuild-devel] " Greg Banks
[not found] ` <3D587483.1C459694@alphalink.com.au>
2002-08-13 3:39 ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-13 4:31 ` Greg Banks
2002-08-13 14:00 ` [kbuild-devel] " Greg Banks
2002-08-13 15:53 ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-13 18:48 ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-08-14 1:13 ` Greg Banks
2002-08-14 3:28 ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-14 4:35 ` [patch] kernel config 3/N - move sound into drivers/media Peter Samuelson
2002-08-14 5:08 ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-08-14 5:49 ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-14 10:56 ` [kbuild-devel] " Arnd Bergmann
2002-08-14 12:20 ` S390 vs S390x, was " Christoph Hellwig
2002-08-14 17:21 ` Arnd Bergmann
2002-08-14 18:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-08-14 21:18 ` Arnd Bergmann
2002-08-14 19:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-08-14 22:52 ` Arnd Bergmann
2002-08-14 6:14 ` Greg Banks
2002-08-14 6:31 ` Greg Banks
2002-08-14 8:16 ` Russell King
2002-08-14 6:01 ` [kbuild-devel] Re: [patch] config language dep_* enhancements Greg Banks
2002-08-14 8:18 ` Russell King
2002-08-14 14:22 ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-15 1:28 ` Greg Banks
2002-08-15 2:33 ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-15 3:27 ` Greg Banks
2002-08-13 18:43 ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-08-13 20:48 ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-14 1:27 ` Greg Banks
2002-08-14 1:42 ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-14 2:27 ` Greg Banks
2002-08-14 2:57 ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-14 4:39 ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-08-14 5:35 ` Greg Banks
2002-08-14 11:40 ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-15 1:52 ` [kbuild-devel] " Greg Banks
2002-08-15 3:30 ` John Alvord
2002-08-16 2:24 ` Peter Samuelson [this message]
2002-08-15 9:46 ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-15 14:43 ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-08-15 20:12 ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-16 2:08 ` Greg Banks
2002-08-16 10:54 ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-19 9:27 ` Greg Banks
2002-08-19 10:20 ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-20 14:10 ` Greg Banks
2002-08-20 17:51 ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-19 20:30 ` Sam Ravnborg
2002-08-20 14:28 ` David Woodhouse
2002-08-23 15:18 ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-08-23 23:03 ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-24 12:43 ` Greg Banks
2002-08-14 1:19 ` Greg Banks
2002-08-12 15:47 ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-13 3:23 ` [kbuild-devel] " Greg Banks
2002-08-13 16:04 ` Sam Ravnborg
2002-08-13 16:20 ` [kbuild-devel] " Peter Samuelson
2002-08-14 0:22 ` Greg Banks
2002-08-14 20:14 ` Get rid of shell based Config.in parsers? Sam Ravnborg
2002-08-14 22:21 ` [kbuild-devel] " Peter Samuelson
2002-08-15 17:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-08 23:57 ` 64bit clean drivers was Re: Linux 2.4.20-pre1 Thunder from the hill
2002-08-08 19:23 ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-08 20:03 ` Andi Kleen
2002-08-08 20:19 ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-08 17:42 ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-09 10:21 ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-09 11:47 ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-09 12:07 ` Russell King
2002-08-09 12:49 ` Peter Samuelson
2002-08-09 14:53 ` [kbuild-devel] " Greg Banks
2002-08-09 22:37 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-08-08 20:37 ` Andi Kleen
2002-08-08 20:51 ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-07 17:31 ` Thunder from the hill
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