From: Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>
To: "Jon Smirl" <jonsmirl@gmail.com>
Cc: "Alan Cox" <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
"Jeff Garzik" <jeff@garzik.org>,
"Jesse Barnes" <jesse.barnes@intel.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Antonino A. Daplas" <adaplas@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] enhancing the kernel's graphics subsystem
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 08:46:53 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200705220846.53664.jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9e4733910705220816j778e00ecle86e209ef0111b8e@mail.gmail.com>
On Tuesday, May 22, 2007, Jon Smirl wrote:
> On 5/22/07, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:
> > > you display text in graphics mode entirely in kernel context. The
> > > driver should also attempt to stop the GPU to try and make sure it
> > > doesn't erase the OOPS display.
> >
> > If we know how yes. Probably the X server needs to provide us with a
> > simple list of operations to perform or failing that write 128K of
> > null to the display then print the characters (the 128K should ensure
> > any running FIFO for commands is stuffed and we get back to the
> > framebuffer)
> >
> > > Another simple thing that needs to be built is a mechanism to run
> > > the VBIOS in x86 mode when the driver is first loaded. This can be
> >
> > We don't want to touch the video bios for most cards, its not as good
> > as the X mode switcher code, nor for that matter does it work in a lot
> > of cases as they use IRQ and DMA functions sometimes.
>
> The only reason the VBIOS is run is to initially reset the card. Once
> we get the card reset it isn't used any more. For almost all cards
> this is the only way to reset them, we have insufficient information
> to write this ourselves.
We should aim to get away from this though. For Intel and VIA chips, we
have enough info to do full card setup ourselves. IIRC there's some early
code to do the same for ATI chips (not sure about other chips though). If
we can avoid using the VBIOS, our drivers will be far more portable and
featureful than they'd be otherwise. For example, current ATI drivers
simply can't do full multihead on many setups because it relies on the
BIOS to setup external DAC chips, and in many cases the BIOS doesn't. In
order to address that, we need to learn how to do it ourselves... So if
at all possible, I'd like to avoid baking any assumptions about VBIOS POST
into this design.
Jesse
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-05-22 15:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-05-17 21:23 Jesse Barnes
2007-05-17 22:32 ` [PATCH 1/3] allow console unregistration Jesse Barnes
2007-05-17 22:47 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-17 23:23 ` Antonino A. Daplas
2007-05-18 0:56 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-22 21:43 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Jesse Barnes
2007-05-23 0:49 ` Antonino A. Daplas
2007-05-22 21:44 ` [PATCH 2/2] make fbcon unregister when unloaded Jesse Barnes
2007-05-22 22:05 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-05-22 22:14 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-23 0:47 ` Antonino A. Daplas
2007-05-30 0:00 ` [PATCH 1/3] allow console unregistration Antonino A. Daplas
2007-05-30 6:26 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-05-17 22:37 ` [PATCH 2/3] drm modesetting core Jesse Barnes
2007-05-17 22:48 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-17 23:41 ` Luca Tettamanti
2007-05-18 1:04 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-18 19:33 ` Luca Tettamanti
2007-05-18 21:06 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-17 22:40 ` [PATCH 3/3] Intel support for DRM modesetting Jesse Barnes
2007-05-17 22:48 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-20 17:42 ` [RFC] enhancing the kernel's graphics subsystem Jon Smirl
2007-05-20 23:10 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-21 0:47 ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-21 1:29 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-21 15:34 ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-21 16:15 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-05-21 15:09 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-21 16:01 ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-21 16:14 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-21 16:34 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-21 17:05 ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-21 17:14 ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-21 17:29 ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-21 17:42 ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-21 17:47 ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-21 18:04 ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-21 18:44 ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-21 19:10 ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-21 19:20 ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-21 23:24 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-22 0:08 ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22 0:20 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-05-21 23:21 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-22 0:35 ` Alan Cox
2007-05-22 0:33 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-22 0:45 ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22 0:56 ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22 8:21 ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-22 8:07 ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-22 8:16 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-22 8:27 ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-22 16:06 ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22 16:19 ` Alan Cox
2007-05-22 16:34 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-22 0:15 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-05-21 17:32 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-21 23:18 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-22 0:26 ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22 1:56 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-22 14:27 ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22 14:35 ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-22 15:13 ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22 17:25 ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-22 19:58 ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-28 20:12 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-28 20:57 ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-29 14:26 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-29 16:51 ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22 14:54 ` Alan Cox
2007-05-22 15:16 ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22 15:46 ` Jesse Barnes [this message]
2007-05-22 16:02 ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22 16:14 ` Alan Cox
2007-05-22 16:15 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-22 16:32 ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22 16:35 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-22 16:51 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-22 15:59 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-05-21 16:16 ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-21 8:27 ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-21 9:09 ` Helge Hafting
2007-05-21 9:27 ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-21 9:44 ` Helge Hafting
2007-05-21 15:57 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-21 16:07 ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-21 16:27 ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-21 16:50 ` Xavier Bestel
2007-05-22 0:09 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-05-22 0:51 ` Keith Packard
2007-05-22 2:48 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-05-22 15:39 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-22 23:26 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-05-22 23:36 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-23 0:40 ` Antonino A. Daplas
2007-05-23 12:19 ` Helge Hafting
2007-05-22 16:29 ` Philipp Klaus Krause
2007-05-22 16:57 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-22 18:18 ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-22 2:56 ` l l
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