From: Helge Hafting <helge.hafting@aitel.hist.no>
To: Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>
Cc: Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@verizon.net>,
Jesse Barnes <jesse.barnes@intel.com>,
jonsmirl@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] enhancing the kernel's graphics subsystem
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 11:09:04 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <465161B0.9050800@aitel.hist.no> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <21d7e9970705210127o2360cd63mb8a41fdab9f211f9@mail.gmail.com>
Dave Airlie wrote:
> On 5/21/07, Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@verizon.net> wrote:
>> On Thu, 17 May 2007 14:23:45 -0700, Jesse Barnes wrote:
>>
>> > In collaboration with the FB guys, we've been working on enhancing the
>> > kernel's graphics subsystem in an attempt to bring some sanity to the
>> > Linux graphics world and avoid the situation we have now where several
>> > kernel and userspace drivers compete for control of graphics devices.
>>
>> How is supporting different users logged into each head going to work?
>> The original model for this was to give each head its own fbdev device.
>> It is important that each user be able to set their own mode without
>> being
>> root.
>
> TThe problem with that is the concept of heads is flawed... there is
> in reality no such
> thing, you have crtcs and outputs, no heads. So any attempt to enforce
> the head concept involves putting policy into the kernel, as if I have
> 3 outputs but 2 crtcs how do I decide the mappings without the admin
> telling the kernel,
>
Solution:
One device per crtc. You can then have two users, running consoles
or xservers on their crtcs, without having to involve root.
The crtc->output mapping must still be done by root of course.
This solution allow the useful case where the computer boots, the boot
scripts
set up a crtc->output mapping. Then users log in through the
various consoles (using getty or xdm or similiar) using their grahphical
devices in whatever way they want. A true multiseat setup.
And if one user needs to use all the screens for multi-display work?
Let root change the mappings, possibly through some sudo setup.
Helge Hafting
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-05-21 9:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-05-17 21:23 Jesse Barnes
2007-05-17 22:32 ` [PATCH 1/3] allow console unregistration Jesse Barnes
2007-05-17 22:47 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-17 23:23 ` Antonino A. Daplas
2007-05-18 0:56 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-22 21:43 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Jesse Barnes
2007-05-23 0:49 ` Antonino A. Daplas
2007-05-22 21:44 ` [PATCH 2/2] make fbcon unregister when unloaded Jesse Barnes
2007-05-22 22:05 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-05-22 22:14 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-23 0:47 ` Antonino A. Daplas
2007-05-30 0:00 ` [PATCH 1/3] allow console unregistration Antonino A. Daplas
2007-05-30 6:26 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-05-17 22:37 ` [PATCH 2/3] drm modesetting core Jesse Barnes
2007-05-17 22:48 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-17 23:41 ` Luca Tettamanti
2007-05-18 1:04 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-18 19:33 ` Luca Tettamanti
2007-05-18 21:06 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-17 22:40 ` [PATCH 3/3] Intel support for DRM modesetting Jesse Barnes
2007-05-17 22:48 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-20 17:42 ` [RFC] enhancing the kernel's graphics subsystem Jon Smirl
2007-05-20 23:10 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-21 0:47 ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-21 1:29 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-21 15:34 ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-21 16:15 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-05-21 15:09 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-21 16:01 ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-21 16:14 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-21 16:34 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-21 17:05 ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-21 17:14 ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-21 17:29 ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-21 17:42 ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-21 17:47 ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-21 18:04 ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-21 18:44 ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-21 19:10 ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-21 19:20 ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-21 23:24 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-22 0:08 ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22 0:20 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-05-21 23:21 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-22 0:35 ` Alan Cox
2007-05-22 0:33 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-22 0:45 ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22 0:56 ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22 8:21 ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-22 8:07 ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-22 8:16 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-22 8:27 ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-22 16:06 ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22 16:19 ` Alan Cox
2007-05-22 16:34 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-22 0:15 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-05-21 17:32 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-21 23:18 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-22 0:26 ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22 1:56 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-22 14:27 ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22 14:35 ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-22 15:13 ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22 17:25 ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-22 19:58 ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-28 20:12 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-28 20:57 ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-29 14:26 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-29 16:51 ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22 14:54 ` Alan Cox
2007-05-22 15:16 ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22 15:46 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-22 16:02 ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22 16:14 ` Alan Cox
2007-05-22 16:15 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-22 16:32 ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22 16:35 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-22 16:51 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-22 15:59 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-05-21 16:16 ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-21 8:27 ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-21 9:09 ` Helge Hafting [this message]
2007-05-21 9:27 ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-21 9:44 ` Helge Hafting
2007-05-21 15:57 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-21 16:07 ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-21 16:27 ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-21 16:50 ` Xavier Bestel
2007-05-22 0:09 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-05-22 0:51 ` Keith Packard
2007-05-22 2:48 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-05-22 15:39 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-22 23:26 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-05-22 23:36 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-23 0:40 ` Antonino A. Daplas
2007-05-23 12:19 ` Helge Hafting
2007-05-22 16:29 ` Philipp Klaus Krause
2007-05-22 16:57 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-22 18:18 ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-22 2:56 ` l l
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