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From: Helge Hafting <helge.hafting@aitel.hist.no>
To: Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>
Cc: Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@verizon.net>,
	Jesse Barnes <jesse.barnes@intel.com>,
	jonsmirl@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] enhancing the kernel's graphics subsystem
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 11:09:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <465161B0.9050800@aitel.hist.no> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <21d7e9970705210127o2360cd63mb8a41fdab9f211f9@mail.gmail.com>

Dave Airlie wrote:
> On 5/21/07, Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@verizon.net> wrote:
>> On Thu, 17 May 2007 14:23:45 -0700, Jesse Barnes wrote:
>>
>> > In collaboration with the FB guys, we've been working on enhancing the
>> > kernel's graphics subsystem in an attempt to bring some sanity to the
>> > Linux graphics world and avoid the situation we have now where several
>> > kernel and userspace drivers compete for control of graphics devices.
>>
>> How is supporting different users logged into each head going to work?
>> The original model for this was to give each head its own fbdev device.
>> It is important that each user be able to set their own mode without 
>> being
>> root.
>
> TThe problem with that is the concept of heads is flawed... there is
> in reality no such
> thing, you have crtcs and outputs, no heads. So any attempt to enforce
> the head concept involves putting policy into the kernel, as if I have
> 3 outputs but 2 crtcs how do I decide the mappings without the admin
> telling the kernel,
>
Solution:
One device per crtc. You can then have two users, running consoles
or xservers on their crtcs, without having to involve root.

The crtc->output mapping must still be done by root of course.

This solution allow the useful case where the computer boots, the boot 
scripts
set up a crtc->output mapping. Then users log in through the
various consoles (using getty or xdm or similiar) using their grahphical
devices in whatever way they want.  A true multiseat setup.


And if one user needs to use all the screens for multi-display work?
Let root change the mappings, possibly through some sudo setup.

Helge Hafting

  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-21  9:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-17 21:23 Jesse Barnes
2007-05-17 22:32 ` [PATCH 1/3] allow console unregistration Jesse Barnes
2007-05-17 22:47   ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-17 23:23   ` Antonino A. Daplas
2007-05-18  0:56     ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-22 21:43     ` [PATCH 1/2] " Jesse Barnes
2007-05-23  0:49       ` Antonino A. Daplas
2007-05-22 21:44     ` [PATCH 2/2] make fbcon unregister when unloaded Jesse Barnes
2007-05-22 22:05       ` Randy Dunlap
2007-05-22 22:14         ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-23  0:47           ` Antonino A. Daplas
2007-05-30  0:00   ` [PATCH 1/3] allow console unregistration Antonino A. Daplas
2007-05-30  6:26     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-05-17 22:37 ` [PATCH 2/3] drm modesetting core Jesse Barnes
2007-05-17 22:48   ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-17 23:41   ` Luca Tettamanti
2007-05-18  1:04     ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-18 19:33       ` Luca Tettamanti
2007-05-18 21:06         ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-17 22:40 ` [PATCH 3/3] Intel support for DRM modesetting Jesse Barnes
2007-05-17 22:48   ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-20 17:42 ` [RFC] enhancing the kernel's graphics subsystem Jon Smirl
2007-05-20 23:10   ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-21  0:47     ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-21  1:29       ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-21 15:34         ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-21 16:15           ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-05-21 15:09       ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-21 16:01         ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-21 16:14           ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-21 16:34             ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-21 17:05               ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-21 17:14                 ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-21 17:29                   ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-21 17:42                   ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-21 17:47                     ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-21 18:04                       ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-21 18:44                         ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-21 19:10                           ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-21 19:20                             ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-21 23:24                             ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-22  0:08                               ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22  0:20                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-05-21 23:21                   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-22  0:35                     ` Alan Cox
2007-05-22  0:33                       ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-22  0:45                       ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22  0:56                         ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22  8:21                           ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-22  8:07                     ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-22  8:16                       ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-22  8:27                         ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-22 16:06                         ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22 16:19                           ` Alan Cox
2007-05-22 16:34                           ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-22  0:15                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-05-21 17:32                 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-21 23:18                 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-22  0:26                   ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22  1:56                     ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-22 14:27                       ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22 14:35                         ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-22 15:13                           ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22 17:25                             ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-22 19:58                               ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-28 20:12                                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-28 20:57                                   ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-29 14:26                                     ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-29 16:51                                       ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22 14:54                         ` Alan Cox
2007-05-22 15:16                           ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22 15:46                             ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-22 16:02                               ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22 16:14                                 ` Alan Cox
2007-05-22 16:15                                 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-22 16:32                                   ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22 16:35                                     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-22 16:51                                     ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-22 15:59                             ` Matthew Garrett
2007-05-21 16:16           ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-21  8:27   ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-21  9:09     ` Helge Hafting [this message]
2007-05-21  9:27       ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-21  9:44         ` Helge Hafting
2007-05-21 15:57           ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-21 16:07             ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-21 16:27               ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-21 16:50                 ` Xavier Bestel
2007-05-22  0:09 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-05-22  0:51   ` Keith Packard
2007-05-22  2:48     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-05-22 15:39   ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-22 23:26     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-05-22 23:36       ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-23  0:40         ` Antonino A. Daplas
2007-05-23 12:19       ` Helge Hafting
2007-05-22 16:29   ` Philipp Klaus Krause
2007-05-22 16:57     ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-22 18:18     ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-22  2:56 ` l l

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