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From: "Jon Smirl" <jonsmirl@gmail.com>
To: "Dave Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>
Cc: "Jesse Barnes" <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>,
	"Jesse Barnes" <jesse.barnes@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Antonino A. Daplas" <adaplas@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] enhancing the kernel's graphics subsystem
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 13:42:36 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9e4733910705211042o8926e4cy2225c2dbcbf3ff2@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <21d7e9970705211014j6eb59326u85f7347a3000f3d3@mail.gmail.com>

On 5/21/07, Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com> wrote:
> This just needs a userspace console again a parallel problem that
> really isn't much to do with the problem set this work is trying to
> solve... it should enable it...

When I went through the design process for all this I came to the same
conclusion about needing a user space console process.

User space console does impact on all of this because it implies that
the current console should be be defeatured down until it becomes only
a system recovery console and not a console for everyday use.

For example, one part of the defeaturing would be to remove the
drawing acceleration code in the existing fbdev console drivers and to
rework it to support accelerated drawing from the user space console
implementation. You want the system recovery console mode to be as
simple as possible so that it is always guaranteed to work. User space
console is also what leads to the idea of compiling VT out of the
kernel.

Once you decide that a user space console is needed then the per CRTC
device node becomes more obvious since different people can be logged
onto the different consoles.

All of the points in the list are interrelated and the architecture
needs to address everything as a unified whole.

-- 
Jon Smirl
jonsmirl@gmail.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-05-21 17:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-17 21:23 Jesse Barnes
2007-05-17 22:32 ` [PATCH 1/3] allow console unregistration Jesse Barnes
2007-05-17 22:47   ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-17 23:23   ` Antonino A. Daplas
2007-05-18  0:56     ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-22 21:43     ` [PATCH 1/2] " Jesse Barnes
2007-05-23  0:49       ` Antonino A. Daplas
2007-05-22 21:44     ` [PATCH 2/2] make fbcon unregister when unloaded Jesse Barnes
2007-05-22 22:05       ` Randy Dunlap
2007-05-22 22:14         ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-23  0:47           ` Antonino A. Daplas
2007-05-30  0:00   ` [PATCH 1/3] allow console unregistration Antonino A. Daplas
2007-05-30  6:26     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-05-17 22:37 ` [PATCH 2/3] drm modesetting core Jesse Barnes
2007-05-17 22:48   ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-17 23:41   ` Luca Tettamanti
2007-05-18  1:04     ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-18 19:33       ` Luca Tettamanti
2007-05-18 21:06         ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-17 22:40 ` [PATCH 3/3] Intel support for DRM modesetting Jesse Barnes
2007-05-17 22:48   ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-20 17:42 ` [RFC] enhancing the kernel's graphics subsystem Jon Smirl
2007-05-20 23:10   ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-21  0:47     ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-21  1:29       ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-21 15:34         ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-21 16:15           ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-05-21 15:09       ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-21 16:01         ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-21 16:14           ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-21 16:34             ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-21 17:05               ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-21 17:14                 ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-21 17:29                   ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-21 17:42                   ` Jon Smirl [this message]
2007-05-21 17:47                     ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-21 18:04                       ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-21 18:44                         ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-21 19:10                           ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-21 19:20                             ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-21 23:24                             ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-22  0:08                               ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22  0:20                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-05-21 23:21                   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-22  0:35                     ` Alan Cox
2007-05-22  0:33                       ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-22  0:45                       ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22  0:56                         ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22  8:21                           ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-22  8:07                     ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-22  8:16                       ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-22  8:27                         ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-22 16:06                         ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22 16:19                           ` Alan Cox
2007-05-22 16:34                           ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-22  0:15                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-05-21 17:32                 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-21 23:18                 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-22  0:26                   ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22  1:56                     ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-22 14:27                       ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22 14:35                         ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-22 15:13                           ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22 17:25                             ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-22 19:58                               ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-28 20:12                                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-28 20:57                                   ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-29 14:26                                     ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-29 16:51                                       ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22 14:54                         ` Alan Cox
2007-05-22 15:16                           ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22 15:46                             ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-22 16:02                               ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22 16:14                                 ` Alan Cox
2007-05-22 16:15                                 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-22 16:32                                   ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22 16:35                                     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-22 16:51                                     ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-22 15:59                             ` Matthew Garrett
2007-05-21 16:16           ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-21  8:27   ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-21  9:09     ` Helge Hafting
2007-05-21  9:27       ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-21  9:44         ` Helge Hafting
2007-05-21 15:57           ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-21 16:07             ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-21 16:27               ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-21 16:50                 ` Xavier Bestel
2007-05-22  0:09 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-05-22  0:51   ` Keith Packard
2007-05-22  2:48     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-05-22 15:39   ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-22 23:26     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-05-22 23:36       ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-23  0:40         ` Antonino A. Daplas
2007-05-23 12:19       ` Helge Hafting
2007-05-22 16:29   ` Philipp Klaus Krause
2007-05-22 16:57     ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-22 18:18     ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-22  2:56 ` l l

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