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From: Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>
To: dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Cc: Philipp Klaus Krause <pkk@spth.de>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] enhancing the kernel's graphics subsystem
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 09:57:40 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200705220957.40218.jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46531A55.9090403@spth.de>

On Tuesday, May 22, 2007, Philipp Klaus Krause wrote:
> Benjamin Herrenschmidt schrieb:
> >> In collaboration with the FB guys, we've been working on enhancing
> >> the
> >> kernel's graphics subsystem in an attempt to bring some sanity to the
> >> Linux graphics world and avoid the situation we have now where
> >> several
> >> kernel and userspace drivers compete for control of graphics devices.
>
> What's the difference between this and Jon Smirls' proposals from early
> 2005?

There are lots of differences.  From memory, Jon tried to enhance the FB 
layer to do modesetting with an eye toward multiseat support.  Modes were 
set by echoing values into sysfs, and iirc it didn't tie into the DRM 
layer at all or use proper memory management.

These patches use ioctls on the DRM device for modesetting (at least for 
now), and provide userspace with maximum flexibility.  Framebuffer objects 
are allocated using the new DRM memory manager, and any FB devices created 
are slaves of the DRM layer, avoiding some of the fighting over 
suspend/resume and graphics programming.

Many of the aims are the same though, Jon was trying to address many of the 
problems outlined in my initial mail too, we just have different opinions 
about how exactly those problems should be solved. :)

Jesse

  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-22 16:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-17 21:23 Jesse Barnes
2007-05-17 22:32 ` [PATCH 1/3] allow console unregistration Jesse Barnes
2007-05-17 22:47   ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-17 23:23   ` Antonino A. Daplas
2007-05-18  0:56     ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-22 21:43     ` [PATCH 1/2] " Jesse Barnes
2007-05-23  0:49       ` Antonino A. Daplas
2007-05-22 21:44     ` [PATCH 2/2] make fbcon unregister when unloaded Jesse Barnes
2007-05-22 22:05       ` Randy Dunlap
2007-05-22 22:14         ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-23  0:47           ` Antonino A. Daplas
2007-05-30  0:00   ` [PATCH 1/3] allow console unregistration Antonino A. Daplas
2007-05-30  6:26     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-05-17 22:37 ` [PATCH 2/3] drm modesetting core Jesse Barnes
2007-05-17 22:48   ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-17 23:41   ` Luca Tettamanti
2007-05-18  1:04     ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-18 19:33       ` Luca Tettamanti
2007-05-18 21:06         ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-17 22:40 ` [PATCH 3/3] Intel support for DRM modesetting Jesse Barnes
2007-05-17 22:48   ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-20 17:42 ` [RFC] enhancing the kernel's graphics subsystem Jon Smirl
2007-05-20 23:10   ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-21  0:47     ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-21  1:29       ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-21 15:34         ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-21 16:15           ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-05-21 15:09       ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-21 16:01         ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-21 16:14           ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-21 16:34             ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-21 17:05               ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-21 17:14                 ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-21 17:29                   ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-21 17:42                   ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-21 17:47                     ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-21 18:04                       ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-21 18:44                         ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-21 19:10                           ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-21 19:20                             ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-21 23:24                             ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-22  0:08                               ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22  0:20                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-05-21 23:21                   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-22  0:35                     ` Alan Cox
2007-05-22  0:33                       ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-22  0:45                       ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22  0:56                         ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22  8:21                           ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-22  8:07                     ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-22  8:16                       ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-22  8:27                         ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-22 16:06                         ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22 16:19                           ` Alan Cox
2007-05-22 16:34                           ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-22  0:15                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-05-21 17:32                 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-21 23:18                 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-22  0:26                   ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22  1:56                     ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-22 14:27                       ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22 14:35                         ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-22 15:13                           ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22 17:25                             ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-22 19:58                               ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-28 20:12                                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-28 20:57                                   ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-29 14:26                                     ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-29 16:51                                       ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22 14:54                         ` Alan Cox
2007-05-22 15:16                           ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22 15:46                             ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-22 16:02                               ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22 16:14                                 ` Alan Cox
2007-05-22 16:15                                 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-22 16:32                                   ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-22 16:35                                     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-22 16:51                                     ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-22 15:59                             ` Matthew Garrett
2007-05-21 16:16           ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-21  8:27   ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-21  9:09     ` Helge Hafting
2007-05-21  9:27       ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-21  9:44         ` Helge Hafting
2007-05-21 15:57           ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-21 16:07             ` Jon Smirl
2007-05-21 16:27               ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-21 16:50                 ` Xavier Bestel
2007-05-22  0:09 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-05-22  0:51   ` Keith Packard
2007-05-22  2:48     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-05-22 15:39   ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-22 23:26     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-05-22 23:36       ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-23  0:40         ` Antonino A. Daplas
2007-05-23 12:19       ` Helge Hafting
2007-05-22 16:29   ` Philipp Klaus Krause
2007-05-22 16:57     ` Jesse Barnes [this message]
2007-05-22 18:18     ` Dave Airlie
2007-05-22  2:56 ` l l

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