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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>,
	containers@lists.linux-foundation.org, arnd@arndb.de,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 2/2] first callers of process_deny_checkpoint()
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:17:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200810101517.17809.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081010084614.GA319@elte.hu>

On Friday, 10 of October 2008, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> * Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 14:43 -0500, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> > > Hmm, I don't know too much about aio, but is it possible to succeed with
> > > io_getevents if we didn't first do a submit?  It looks like the contexts
> > > are looked up out of current->mm, so I don't think we need this call
> > > here.
> > > 
> > > Otherwise, this is neat.
> > 
> > Good question.  I know nothing, either. :)
> > 
> > My thought was that any process *trying* to do aio stuff of any kind 
> > is going to be really confused if it gets checkpointed.  Or, it might 
> > try to submit an aio right after it checks the list of them.  I 
> > thought it best to be cautious and say, if you screw with aio, no 
> > checkpointing for you!
> 
> as long as there's total transparency and the transition from CR-capable 
> to CR-disabled state is absolutely safe and race-free, that should be 
> fine.
> 
> I expect users to quickly cause enough pressure to reduce the NOCR areas 
> of the kernel significantly ;-)
> 
> In the long run, could we expect a (experimental) version of hibernation 
> that would just use this checkpointing facility to hibernate?

Surely not ACPI-compliant.

Apart from this I don't see why not, but OTOH I'm not particularly interested
in implementing that.

Thanks,
Rafael

  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-10 13:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-09 19:04 [RFC][PATCH 1/2] Track in-kernel when we expect checkpoint/restart to work Dave Hansen
2008-10-09 19:04 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/2] first callers of process_deny_checkpoint() Dave Hansen
2008-10-09 19:43   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-10-09 20:54     ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-10  8:46       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-10 13:17         ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2008-10-10 14:54           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-10 19:53             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-10 19:53               ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-10 20:40                 ` Len Brown
2008-10-10 22:57                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-11 13:48         ` Pavel Machek
2008-10-11 15:00           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-10 10:27       ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-10  8:41   ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-10-10 10:17   ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-10 14:04     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-10-10 16:45       ` Greg Kurz
2008-10-10 17:13         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-10-10 17:28         ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-13  8:20           ` Greg Kurz
2008-10-10  8:20 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/2] Track in-kernel when we expect checkpoint/restart to work Greg Kurz
2008-10-10  8:37   ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-10-10  8:47     ` Greg Kurz
2008-10-10 10:11     ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-10 14:59     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-10 15:17       ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-10 15:28         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-10 16:34         ` Greg Kurz
2008-10-10 16:36           ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-10 20:57             ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-10-10 17:18           ` Chris Friesen
2008-10-13  8:18             ` Greg Kurz
2008-10-13 16:46               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-10-10 16:33     ` Dave Hansen

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