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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>,
	containers@lists.linux-foundation.org, arnd@arndb.de,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 2/2] first callers of process_deny_checkpoint()
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 17:00:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081011150022.GA18989@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081011134803.GA1483@ucw.cz>


* Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz> wrote:

> > In the long run, could we expect a (experimental) version of 
> > hibernation that would just use this checkpointing facility to 
> > hibernate? That would be way cool for users and for testing: we 
> > could do transparent kernel upgrades/downgrades via this form of 
> > hibernation, between CR-compatible kernels (!).
> 
> Well, if we could do that, I guess we could also use CR to 'hibernate' 
> your desktop then continue on your notebook. And yes that sounds cool.

yes.

> > Pie in the sky for sure, but way cool: it could propel Linux kernel 
> > testing to completely new areas - new kernels could be tried 
> > non-intrusively. (as long as a new kernel does not corrupt the CR 
> > data structures - so some good consistency and redundancy checking 
> > would be nice in the format!)
> 
> Well, for simple apps, it should not be that hard...

Generally, if something works for simple apps already (in a robust, 
compatible and supportable way) and users find it "very cool", then 
support for more complex apps is not far in the future.

but if you want to support more complex apps straight away, it takes 
forever and gets ugly.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-11 15:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-09 19:04 [RFC][PATCH 1/2] Track in-kernel when we expect checkpoint/restart to work Dave Hansen
2008-10-09 19:04 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/2] first callers of process_deny_checkpoint() Dave Hansen
2008-10-09 19:43   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-10-09 20:54     ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-10  8:46       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-10 13:17         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-10 14:54           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-10 19:53             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-10 19:53               ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-10 20:40                 ` Len Brown
2008-10-10 22:57                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-11 13:48         ` Pavel Machek
2008-10-11 15:00           ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2008-10-10 10:27       ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-10  8:41   ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-10-10 10:17   ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-10 14:04     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-10-10 16:45       ` Greg Kurz
2008-10-10 17:13         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-10-10 17:28         ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-13  8:20           ` Greg Kurz
2008-10-10  8:20 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/2] Track in-kernel when we expect checkpoint/restart to work Greg Kurz
2008-10-10  8:37   ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-10-10  8:47     ` Greg Kurz
2008-10-10 10:11     ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-10 14:59     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-10 15:17       ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-10 15:28         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-10 16:34         ` Greg Kurz
2008-10-10 16:36           ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-10 20:57             ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-10-10 17:18           ` Chris Friesen
2008-10-13  8:18             ` Greg Kurz
2008-10-13 16:46               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-10-10 16:33     ` Dave Hansen

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