From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@elte.hu>,
"Pekka Enberg" <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
"Tom Zanussi" <tzanussi@gmail.com>,
"Frédéric Weisbecker" <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
"Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
"Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo" <acme@redhat.com>,
"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: disabling group leader perf_event
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 16:48:24 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100906164824.339cd82e@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C8506B5.1040808@redhat.com>
> No, I want the ability to terminate the code at any time and clean up
> any resources used. We have exactly the same requirements for ordinary
> userspace.
So you intend to prevent its use at any point where we have a kernel only
resource held in any way manner or form ? Remember we don't hold locks or
many kinds of kernel resource across syscalls. Likewise I'm interested
how you will keep it compatible with real time ?
> > - bounded memory use
> > - trustable behaviour for access
>
> Right.
>
> > and usually minimal side effects since you want to optimise very
> > heavily and side effects stop that (which is also why Fortran still kicks
> > C's backside for crunching)
> >
> > Not sure you need/want to do the conversion in kernel.
>
> I prefer bytecode as well.
>
> > I'd have thought a
> > sane way to handle it would have been to throw stuff at the kernel in
> > some kind of semi-sane byte code that can be interpreted by a noddy
> > interpreter but firstly when you get it have the kernel try and run a
> > helper to compile it.
>
> So you do want to jit?
Depends what you mean by jit. JIT normally implies compiling/recompiling
as you go. Do we want to compile it once at load time - probably,
assuming the tool is present.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-09-06 15:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-09-06 9:12 Avi Kivity
2010-09-06 11:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-06 11:34 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-06 11:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-06 11:58 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-06 12:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-06 12:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-06 13:16 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-09-06 16:42 ` Tom Zanussi
2010-09-07 12:53 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-09-07 14:16 ` Tom Zanussi
2010-09-06 12:49 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-06 12:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-06 12:45 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-06 12:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-06 13:41 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-09-06 13:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-06 14:57 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-06 15:30 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-06 15:20 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-06 15:48 ` Alan Cox [this message]
2010-09-06 17:50 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-06 15:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-06 17:55 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-07 3:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-07 8:33 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-09-07 9:13 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-07 22:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-07 15:55 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-08 1:44 ` Paul Mackerras
2010-09-08 6:16 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-09-08 6:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-08 7:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-08 19:30 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2010-09-09 7:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-08 6:19 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-06 20:31 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-09-06 20:37 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-09-07 4:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-07 9:30 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-09-07 22:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-07 10:57 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-07 12:14 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-09-07 13:35 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-09-07 13:47 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-07 16:02 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-09-12 6:46 ` Pavel Machek
2010-09-12 17:54 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-12 18:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-12 19:14 ` Pavel Machek
2010-09-12 20:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-12 21:06 ` Pavel Machek
2010-09-12 22:19 ` Ingo Molnar
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