From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>
Cc: kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com, "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@elte.hu>,
"Avi Kivity" <avi@redhat.com>,
"Pekka Enberg" <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
"Tom Zanussi" <tzanussi@gmail.com>,
"Frédéric Weisbecker" <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
"Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
"Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo" <acme@redhat.com>,
"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: disabling group leader perf_event
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 19:57:22 +0900 (JST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100907141319.C90D.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikQk0S-mR2Ow2NgdzqAMB0DD05Vd1Th99gNRy8h@mail.gmail.com>
> As for the intermediate form, you might want to take a look at Dalvik:
>
> http://www.netmite.com/android/mydroid/dalvik/docs/dalvik-bytecode.html
>
> and probably ParrotVM bytecode too. The thing to avoid is stack-based
> instructions like in Java bytecode because although it's easy to write
> interpreters for them, it makes JIT'ing harder (which needs to convert
> stack-based representation to register-based) and probably doesn't
> lend itself well to stack-constrained kernel code.
(offtopic)
Afaik, NetBSD plan to include lua interpreter in kernel. it is optimized embedded environment.
(more offtopic)
in kernel interpreter is needed some concern. 1) restricted stack size (typical userland VM
often use >100K stack size) 2) restrected memory allocation, especially high order allocation
often fail. 3) GC often makes unacceptable large lag especially on UP kernel. etc etc
So, We can't apply rich interpreter (e.g. Dalvik, Parrrot) so easily. I think. personally I prefer
minimum component.
Thanks.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-09-07 10:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-09-06 9:12 Avi Kivity
2010-09-06 11:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-06 11:34 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-06 11:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-06 11:58 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-06 12:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-06 12:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-06 13:16 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-09-06 16:42 ` Tom Zanussi
2010-09-07 12:53 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-09-07 14:16 ` Tom Zanussi
2010-09-06 12:49 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-06 12:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-06 12:45 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-06 12:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-06 13:41 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-09-06 13:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-06 14:57 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-06 15:30 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-06 15:20 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-06 15:48 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-06 17:50 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-06 15:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-06 17:55 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-07 3:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-07 8:33 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-09-07 9:13 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-07 22:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-07 15:55 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-08 1:44 ` Paul Mackerras
2010-09-08 6:16 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-09-08 6:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-08 7:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-08 19:30 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2010-09-09 7:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-08 6:19 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-06 20:31 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-09-06 20:37 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-09-07 4:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-07 9:30 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-09-07 22:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-07 10:57 ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]
2010-09-07 12:14 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-09-07 13:35 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-09-07 13:47 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-07 16:02 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-09-12 6:46 ` Pavel Machek
2010-09-12 17:54 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-12 18:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-12 19:14 ` Pavel Machek
2010-09-12 20:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-12 21:06 ` Pavel Machek
2010-09-12 22:19 ` Ingo Molnar
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