From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: "Pekka Enberg" <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
"Tom Zanussi" <tzanussi@gmail.com>,
"Frédéric Weisbecker" <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
"Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
"Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo" <acme@redhat.com>,
"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: disabling group leader perf_event
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 20:55:54 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C852B2A.2030103@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100906154737.GA4332@elte.hu>
On 09/06/2010 06:47 PM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
>> The actual language doesn't really matter.
> There are 3 basic categories:
>
> 1- Most (least abstract) specific code: a block of bytecode in the form
> of a simplified, executable, kernel-checked x86 machine code block -
> this is also the fastest form. [yes, this is actually possible.]
Do you then recompile it? x86 is quite unpleasant.
> 2- Least specific (most abstract) code: A subset/sideset of C - as it's
> the most kernel-developer-trustable/debuggable form.
>
> 3- Everything else little more than a dot on the spectrum between the
> first two points.
>
> I lean towards #2 - but #1 looks interesting too. #3 is distinctly
> uninteresting as it cannot be as fast as #1 and cannot be as convenient
> as #2.
Curious - how do you guarantee safety of #1 or even #2? Can you point
me to any research?
Everything I'm aware of is bytecode with explicit measures to prevent
forged pointers, but I admit I've spent no time on it. It's interesting
stuff, though.
--
I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this
signature is too narrow to contain.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-09-06 17:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-09-06 9:12 Avi Kivity
2010-09-06 11:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-06 11:34 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-06 11:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-06 11:58 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-06 12:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-06 12:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-06 13:16 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-09-06 16:42 ` Tom Zanussi
2010-09-07 12:53 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-09-07 14:16 ` Tom Zanussi
2010-09-06 12:49 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-06 12:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-06 12:45 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-06 12:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-06 13:41 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-09-06 13:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-06 14:57 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-06 15:30 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-06 15:20 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-06 15:48 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-06 17:50 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-06 15:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-06 17:55 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-09-07 3:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-07 8:33 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-09-07 9:13 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-07 22:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-07 15:55 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-08 1:44 ` Paul Mackerras
2010-09-08 6:16 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-09-08 6:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-08 7:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-08 19:30 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2010-09-09 7:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-08 6:19 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-06 20:31 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-09-06 20:37 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-09-07 4:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-07 9:30 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-09-07 22:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-07 10:57 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-07 12:14 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-09-07 13:35 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-09-07 13:47 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-07 16:02 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-09-12 6:46 ` Pavel Machek
2010-09-12 17:54 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-12 18:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-12 19:14 ` Pavel Machek
2010-09-12 20:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-12 21:06 ` Pavel Machek
2010-09-12 22:19 ` Ingo Molnar
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