From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Saravana Kannan <skannan@codeaurora.org>
Cc: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>,
Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Christian Lamparter <chunkeey@googlemail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Linux PM mailing list <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] firmware loader: don't cancel _nowait requests when helper is not yet available
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 21:14:57 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201203132114.57828.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F5F16D9.3080607@codeaurora.org>
On Tuesday, March 13, 2012, Saravana Kannan wrote:
> On 01/-10/37 11:59, Kay Sievers wrote:
> > On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 00:36, Greg KH<gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> >> On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 11:30:24PM +0100, Christian Lamparter wrote:
> >>> This patch fixes a regression which was introduced by:
> >>> "PM: Print a warning if firmware is requested when tasks are frozen"
> >>>
> >>> request_firmware_nowait does not stall in any system resume paths.
> >>> Therefore, I think it is perfectly save to use request_firmware_nowait
> >>> from at least the ->complete() callback.
> >>
> >> Is there code somewhere in the kernel that wants to do this? Has commit
> >> a144c6a broken it somehow that this fix would resolve it?
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Signed-off-by: Christian Lamparter<chunkeey@googlemail.com>
> >>> ---
> >>> drivers/base/firmware_class.c | 2 +-
> >>> 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
> >>>
> >>> diff --git a/drivers/base/firmware_class.c b/drivers/base/firmware_class.c
> >>> index 6c9387d..017e020 100644
> >>> --- a/drivers/base/firmware_class.c
> >>> +++ b/drivers/base/firmware_class.c
> >>> @@ -535,7 +535,7 @@ static int _request_firmware(const struct firmware **firmware_p,
> >>>
> >>> read_lock_usermodehelper();
> >>>
> >>> - if (WARN_ON(usermodehelper_is_disabled())) {
> >>> + if (WARN_ON(usermodehelper_is_disabled()&& !(nowait&& uevent))) {
> >>
> >> What does uevent have to do with things here?
> >
> > I don't think that the firmware loader should care about the
> > usermodehelper at all, and that stuff fiddling should just be removed
> > from the firmware class.
> >
> > Forking /sbin/hotplug is disabled by default, it is a broken concept,
> > and it cannot work reliably on today's systems.
> >
> > Firmware is not loaded by /sbin/hotplug since many years, but by udev
> > or whatever service handles uevents, like ueventd on android.
> >
>
> Resending again after fixing my stupid email formatting.
>
> We (mach-msm) just happened to be looking at similar issues with
> request_firmware. The recent changes to request_firmware to check for
> usermodehelper_is_disabled() was preventing us from using
> request_firmware() in what I think is a valid use case. I will get to
> that later.
>
> To first suggest a solution specific the problem this patch is trying to
> address, I think it would be better to do something like below. It's
> just a quick RFC to show what I mean -- haven't even compiled it. If
> there is an agreement on this suggestion, I can send out a cleaner patch.
>
> firmware class: Check for usermode helper availability only
> when enabled.
>
> Signed-off-by: Saravana Kannan <skannan@codeaurora.org>
> ---
> drivers/base/firmware_class.c | 15 ++++++++-------
> kernel/kmod.c | 2 +-
> 2 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/drivers/base/firmware_class.c b/drivers/base/firmware_class.c
> index 06ed6b4..2a45bf7 100644
> --- a/drivers/base/firmware_class.c
> +++ b/drivers/base/firmware_class.c
> @@ -534,12 +534,6 @@ static int _request_firmware(const struct firmware
> **firmware_p,
> return 0;
> }
>
> - if (WARN_ON(usermodehelper_is_disabled())) {
> - dev_err(device, "firmware: %s will not be loaded\n", name);
> - retval = -EBUSY;
> - goto out;
> - }
> -
> if (uevent)
> dev_dbg(device, "firmware: requesting %s\n", name);
>
> @@ -555,12 +549,19 @@ static int _request_firmware(const struct firmware
> **firmware_p,
> round_jiffies_up(jiffies +
> loading_timeout * HZ));
>
> - kobject_uevent(&fw_priv->dev.kobj, KOBJ_ADD);
> + retval = kobject_uevent(&fw_priv->dev.kobj, KOBJ_ADD);
> + if (retval) {
> + dev_err(device, "firmware: %s will not be
> loaded\n", name);
> + set_bit(FW_STATUS_ABORT, &fw_priv->status);
> + goto abort;
> + }
> }
>
> wait_for_completion(&fw_priv->completion);
>
> set_bit(FW_STATUS_DONE, &fw_priv->status);
> +
> +abort:
> del_timer_sync(&fw_priv->timeout);
>
> mutex_lock(&fw_lock);
>
> diff --git a/kernel/kmod.c b/kernel/kmod.c
> index 47613df..e733afe3 100644
> --- a/kernel/kmod.c
> +++ b/kernel/kmod.c
> @@ -422,7 +422,7 @@ int call_usermodehelper_exec(struct subprocess_info
> *sub_info,
> if (sub_info->path[0] == '\0')
> goto out;
>
> - if (!khelper_wq || usermodehelper_disabled) {
> + if (!khelper_wq || (uevent_helper[0] && usermodehelper_disabled)) {
> retval = -EBUSY;
> goto out;
> }
>
> Now, getting to the issue we are facing -- the recent checks for
> usermode helper in request_firmare() is failing request_firmware() in a
> kthread that also activates a wake up source (or if you are familiar
> with Android terms -- grabs a wake lock). By activating a wakeup source,
> the kthread is properly indicating that a suspend shouldn't happen. So,
> I think it's a valid use case for request_firmware().
It isn't really, although it may seems so. In the mainline there is no
guarantee that system suspend will be aborted when you activate a wakeup
source (the suspend process may choose to ignore wakeup sources).
> With the current checks, that doesn't seem to be sufficient since a
> kthread can coincidentally be running in parallel to the suspend
> sequence. The suspend sequence sets "usermodehelper_disabled" for the
> purpose of causing request_firmware() to fail immediately when called
> from the suspend ops.
No, it doesn't do that for this purpose. It does that to prevent a race
between usermode helpers and the freezer from happening. The failing of
request_firmware() when called during system suspend/resume is a consequence
of that, not the reason why it is done.
> But that doesn't take into account that the kthread could also be running at
> the same time.
Yes, it does. User space is frozen and your kthread can't possibly use a
usermode helper at that time.
> If this check wasn't there, the suspend would be aborted (since the kthread
> has activated the wakeup source) and the request_firmware() would have
> succeeded.
It would have succeeded _eventually_, after user space had been thawed.
> I think the usermodehelper check in the request_firmware() flow is
> denying a wider swath of scenarios than it needs to. I think the real
> check should be to only disallow request_firmware() in all of the
> callbacks that are called from suspend_enter().
>
> I was joking to my colleague (Stephen Boyd) about just walking up the
> stack to see if suspend_enter() is in the stack, but he seems to have
> ideas that would have a similar effect on the functionality without
> being insane code. I will leave it to him to present his ideas.
>
> But while we are trying to figure out ways to immediately error out
> request_firmware() from suspend callbacks, I think we should remove the
> usermodehelper check in request_firmware() since it's actually
> preventing legitimate use cases.
All of those use cases are in fact of the "wait for user space to be thawed
and then load the firmware" type, which I believe may be handled without
changing that code.
Why don't you make your kthread freezable, for one example?
Why don't you use a freezable workqueue instead?
Rafael
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-03-13 20:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-03-03 20:22 [RFC] firmware loader: retry _nowait requests when userhelper " Christian Lamparter
2012-03-03 23:57 ` Alan Cox
2012-03-04 1:50 ` Christian Lamparter
2012-03-05 20:12 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-03-09 22:30 ` [PATCH] firmware loader: don't cancel _nowait requests when helper " Christian Lamparter
2012-03-09 23:36 ` Greg KH
2012-03-10 0:52 ` Christian Lamparter
2012-03-11 11:56 ` Kay Sievers
2012-03-13 9:37 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-13 9:43 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-13 20:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2012-03-14 19:21 ` Stephen Boyd
2012-03-14 23:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-14 23:13 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-14 23:17 ` Stephen Boyd
2012-03-14 23:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-14 23:38 ` Stephen Boyd
2012-03-15 0:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-15 19:50 ` [PATCH] firmware_class: Move request_firmware_nowait() to workqueues Stephen Boyd
2012-03-15 20:07 ` Christian Lamparter
2012-03-15 20:12 ` Stephen Boyd
2012-03-15 22:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-16 1:39 ` Stephen Boyd
2012-03-16 20:19 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-16 20:26 ` Stephen Boyd
2012-03-16 21:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-16 22:18 ` Christian Lamparter
2012-03-16 22:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-17 2:47 ` [PATCH] firmware loader: don't cancel _nowait requests when helper is not yet available Stephen Boyd
2012-03-17 5:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-03-17 20:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-18 8:26 ` Stephen Boyd
2012-03-18 12:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-19 6:32 ` Stephen Boyd
2012-03-19 11:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-19 23:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-25 22:00 ` [PATCH 0/6] firmware_class: Fix problems with usermodehelper test Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-25 22:01 ` [PATCH 1/6] firmware_class: Rework usermodehelper check Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-25 22:01 ` [PATCH 2/6] firmware_class: Split _request_firmware() into three functions Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-26 18:15 ` Stephen Boyd
2012-03-26 18:21 ` Stephen Boyd
2012-03-26 20:12 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-26 20:31 ` Stephen Boyd
2012-03-26 20:36 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-27 21:35 ` Stephen Boyd
2012-03-27 21:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-25 22:02 ` [PATCH 3/6] firmware_class: Do not warn that system is not ready from async loads Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-25 22:03 ` [PATCH 4/6] PM / Hibernate: Disable usermode helpers right before freezing tasks Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-25 22:03 ` [PATCH 5/6] PM / Sleep: Move disabling of usermode helpers to the freezer Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-25 22:04 ` [PATCH 6/6] PM / Sleep: Mitigate race between the freezer and request_firmware() Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-26 18:16 ` Stephen Boyd
2012-03-26 20:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-27 21:25 ` Stephen Boyd
2012-03-27 21:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-26 18:42 ` [PATCH 0/6] firmware_class: Fix problems with usermodehelper test Greg KH
2012-03-26 20:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-27 21:28 ` [PATCH 1/2] firmware_class: Reorganize fw_create_instance() Stephen Boyd
2012-03-27 21:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-27 21:49 ` Greg KH
2012-03-27 21:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-27 21:28 ` [PATCH 2/2] firmware_class: Move request_firmware_nowait() to workqueues Stephen Boyd
2012-03-27 21:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-27 22:01 ` Tejun Heo
2012-03-27 22:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-27 22:48 ` Tejun Heo
2012-03-27 22:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-27 23:02 ` Stephen Boyd
2012-03-27 23:05 ` Stephen Boyd
2012-03-28 21:19 ` [PATCH v2 0/8] firmware_class: Fix problems with usermodehelper test Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-28 21:20 ` [PATCH v2 1/8] firmware_class: Rework usermodehelper check Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-28 21:21 ` [PATCH v2 2/8] firmware_class: Split _request_firmware() into three functions, v2 Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-28 21:22 ` [PATCH v3 3/8] firmware_class: Do not warn that system is not ready from async loads Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-28 21:23 ` [PATCH v2 4/8] PM / Hibernate: Disable usermode helpers right before freezing tasks Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-28 21:23 ` [PATCH v2 5/8] PM / Sleep: Move disabling of usermode helpers to the freezer Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-28 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 6/8] PM / Sleep: Mitigate race between the freezer and request_firmware() Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-28 21:25 ` [PATCH v2 7/8] firmware_class: Reorganize fw_create_instance() Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-28 21:26 ` [PATCH v2 8/8] firmware_class: Move request_firmware_nowait() to workqueues Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-14 23:19 ` [PATCH] firmware loader: don't cancel _nowait requests when helper is not yet available Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-13 19:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-13 23:25 ` Kay Sievers
2012-03-14 0:10 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-14 0:14 ` Kay Sievers
2012-03-14 0:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-03-14 1:43 ` Kay Sievers
2012-03-14 1:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-03-14 1:55 ` Kay Sievers
2012-03-14 2:00 ` Kay Sievers
2012-03-14 2:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-03-14 15:07 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-03-14 22:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-16 7:14 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-03-16 20:23 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-16 21:14 ` Christian Lamparter
2012-03-16 21:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-03-19 7:06 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-03-16 22:19 ` [RFC] firmware loader: retry _nowait requests when userhelper " Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-16 22:25 ` Christian Lamparter
2012-03-16 22:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-16 23:35 ` Christian Lamparter
2012-03-16 23:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-03-17 0:23 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-17 0:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-03-18 0:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-18 2:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-03-18 12:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-18 12:43 ` Christian Lamparter
2012-03-18 23:15 ` [PATCH 0/3] firmware_class: Fix problem with async requests (was: Re: [RFC] firmware loader: retry ...) Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-18 23:17 ` [PATCH 1/3] firmware_class: Rework usermodehelper check Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-18 23:18 ` [PATCH 2/3] firmware_class: Split _request_firmware() into three functions Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-18 23:21 ` [PATCH 3/3] firmware_class: Do not warn that system is not ready for async loads Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-19 12:41 ` [RFC] firmware loader: retry _nowait requests when userhelper is not yet available James Courtier-Dutton
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