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From: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
To: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
Cc: Linux Crypto Mailing List <linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Biggers <ebiggers3@gmail.com>,
	Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>,
	Gustavo Padovan <gustavo@padovan.org>,
	Johan Hedberg <johan.hedberg@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 12/13] bluetooth/smp: ensure RNG is properly seeded before ECDH use
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2017 23:06:31 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170608030631.ywmldxzehtumeqd3@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170606174804.31124-13-Jason@zx2c4.com>

On Tue, Jun 06, 2017 at 07:48:03PM +0200, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
> This protocol uses lots of complex cryptography that relies on securely
> generated random numbers. Thus, it's important that the RNG is actually
> seeded before use. Fortuantely, it appears we're always operating in
> process context (there are many GFP_KERNEL allocations and other
> sleeping operations), and so we can simply demand that the RNG is seeded
> before we use it.
> 
> We take two strategies in this commit. The first is for the library code
> that's called from other modules like hci or mgmt: here we just change
> the call to get_random_bytes_wait, and return the result of the wait to
> the caller, along with the other error codes of those functions like
> usual. Then there's the SMP protocol handler itself, which makes many
> many many calls to get_random_bytes during different phases. For this,
> rather than have to change all the calls to get_random_bytes_wait and
> propagate the error result, it's actually enough to just put a single
> call to wait_for_random_bytes() at the beginning of the handler, to
> ensure that all the subsequent invocations are safe, without having to
> actually change them. Likewise, for the random address changing
> function, we'd rather know early on in the function whether the RNG
> initialization has been interrupted, rather than later, so we call
> wait_for_random_bytes() at the top, so that later on the call to
> get_random_bytes() is acceptable.

Do we need to do all of this?  Bluetooth folks, is it fair to assume
that hci_power_on() has to be called before any bluetooth functions
can be done?  If so, adding a wait_for_random_bytes() in
hci_power_on() might be all that is necessary.

	       	     	    	    - Ted

  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-08  3:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-06 17:47 [PATCH v4 00/13] Unseeded In-Kernel Randomness Fixes Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-06 17:47 ` [PATCH v4 01/13] random: invalidate batched entropy after crng init Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-07 23:58   ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-06-08  0:52     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-06 17:47 ` [PATCH v4 02/13] random: add synchronous API for the urandom pool Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-08  0:00   ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-06-06 17:47 ` [PATCH v4 03/13] random: add get_random_{bytes,u32,u64,int,long,once}_wait family Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-08  0:05   ` [kernel-hardening] " Theodore Ts'o
2017-06-06 17:47 ` [PATCH v4 04/13] security/keys: ensure RNG is seeded before use Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-08  0:31   ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-06-08  0:50     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-08  1:03       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-06 17:47 ` [PATCH v4 05/13] crypto/rng: ensure that the RNG is ready before using Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-08  0:41   ` [kernel-hardening] " Theodore Ts'o
2017-06-08  0:47     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-06 17:47 ` [PATCH v4 06/13] iscsi: ensure RNG is seeded before use Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-08  2:43   ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-06-08 12:09     ` [kernel-hardening] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-16 21:58       ` Lee Duncan
2017-06-17  0:41         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-17  3:45           ` Lee Duncan
2017-06-17 14:23             ` Jeffrey Walton
2017-06-17 18:50               ` [kernel-hardening] " Paul Koning
2017-07-05  7:08               ` Antw: Re: [kernel-hardening] " Ulrich Windl
2017-07-05 13:16                 ` Paul Koning
2017-07-05 17:34                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-06-18  8:04             ` Stephan Müller
2017-06-26  1:23               ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2017-06-26 17:38                 ` Stephan Müller
2017-06-30  6:02                   ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2017-07-05  7:03                   ` Antw: " Ulrich Windl
2017-07-05 12:35                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-06-06 17:47 ` [PATCH v4 07/13] ceph: ensure RNG is seeded before using Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-08  2:45   ` [kernel-hardening] " Theodore Ts'o
2017-06-06 17:47 ` [PATCH v4 08/13] cifs: use get_random_u32 for 32-bit lock random Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-08  0:25   ` [kernel-hardening] " Theodore Ts'o
2017-06-08  0:31     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-08  0:34     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-06 17:48 ` [PATCH v4 09/13] rhashtable: use get_random_u32 for hash_rnd Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-08  2:47   ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-06-06 17:48 ` [PATCH v4 10/13] net/neighbor: use get_random_u32 for 32-bit hash random Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-08  3:00   ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-06-06 17:48 ` [PATCH v4 11/13] net/route: use get_random_int for random counter Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-08  3:01   ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-06-06 17:48 ` [PATCH v4 12/13] bluetooth/smp: ensure RNG is properly seeded before ECDH use Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-08  3:06   ` Theodore Ts'o [this message]
2017-06-08  5:04     ` Marcel Holtmann
2017-06-08 12:03       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-08 12:05       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-08 17:05         ` Marcel Holtmann
2017-06-08 17:34           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-09  1:16             ` [PATCH] bluetooth: ensure RNG is properly seeded before powerup Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-06 17:48 ` [PATCH v4 13/13] random: warn when kernel uses unseeded randomness Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-08  8:19   ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-06-08 12:01     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-15 11:03     ` [kernel-hardening] " Michael Ellerman
2017-06-15 11:59       ` Stephan Müller
2017-06-18 15:46         ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-06-18 17:55           ` Stephan Müller
2017-06-18 19:12             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-18 19:11           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-08  8:43   ` Jeffrey Walton
2017-06-07 12:33 ` [PATCH v4 00/13] Unseeded In-Kernel Randomness Fixes Jason A. Donenfeld

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