From: Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@intel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@intel.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@linux.intel.com>,
Ashok Raj <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
Rafael Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>, Alan Cox <alan@linux.intel.com>,
Ravi V Shankar <ravi.v.shankar@intel.com>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, x86 <x86@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/16] x86/split_lock: Enable #AC exception for split locked accesses
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2018 16:05:02 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180621230501.GC18979@romley-ivt3.sc.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180621221006.GC2494@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 12:10:06AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 03:00:03PM -0700, Fenghua Yu wrote:
> > The control knob for firmware is to choose continuing firmware execution
> > by disabling #AC split lock (default) or stopping firmware execution
> > by enabling #AC for split lock. Stopping firmware execution may be useful
> > in hard real time system to identify any split lock issue on the platform.
>
> Having the option only allows broken firmware to continue to exist.
> Limiting people in how they can use their machines.
But in a real case, when I enable #AC for split lock in kernel, reboot
hits #AC because of split lock in firmware code and firmware handles #AC
as fatal error and stops continuing to run.
It will take long time/forever for firmware to fix the split lock issue.
Before the firmware issue is fixed, reboot or S4 cannot run if the feature
is enabled by kernel.
And if unlucky, I'm afraid the patch set even has no chance to be merged to
upstream if maintainer's test machine has firmware split lock issue and the
machine simply cannot reboot or go to S4 if the feature is enabled.
For those reasons, the current patches just don't trust firmware and
disable #AC for split lock for firmware by default and allow sysadmin to
enable it for firmware via the control knob.
So is it ok to still keep the control knob and disable #AC for split lock
for firmware by default?
Thanks.
-Fenghua
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-06-21 23:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-05-27 15:45 Fenghua Yu
2018-05-27 15:45 ` [RFC PATCH 01/16] x86/split_lock: Add CONFIG and enumerate #AC exception for split locked access feature Fenghua Yu
2018-05-27 15:45 ` [RFC PATCH 02/16] x86/split_lock: Handle #AC exception for split lock in kernel mode Fenghua Yu
2018-06-21 19:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-22 10:49 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-22 11:59 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-22 22:41 ` Fenghua Yu
2018-06-22 22:57 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-22 23:03 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-22 23:18 ` Fenghua Yu
2018-06-23 9:08 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-23 4:20 ` Fenghua Yu
2018-06-23 9:17 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-23 15:05 ` Fenghua Yu
2018-06-24 0:55 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-24 1:17 ` Fenghua Yu
2018-06-24 6:43 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-05-27 15:45 ` [RFC PATCH 03/16] x86/split_lock: Set up #AC exception for split locked accesses on all CPUs Fenghua Yu
2018-05-27 15:45 ` [RFC PATCH 04/16] x86/split_lock: Use non locked bit set instruction in set_cpu_cap Fenghua Yu
2018-06-21 19:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-21 20:37 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-27 23:35 ` Fenghua Yu
2018-06-28 7:53 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-28 14:23 ` Fenghua Yu
2018-06-28 14:54 ` Fenghua Yu
2018-05-27 15:45 ` [RFC PATCH 05/16] x86/split_lock: Use non atomic set and clear bit instructions in clear_cpufeature() Fenghua Yu
2018-05-27 15:45 ` [RFC PATCH 06/16] x86/split_lock: Save #AC setting for split lock in firmware in boot time and restore the setting in reboot Fenghua Yu
2018-06-21 19:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-22 15:11 ` Alan Cox
2018-06-26 9:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-26 9:40 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-26 11:02 ` Alan Cox
2018-06-26 11:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-27 15:45 ` [RFC PATCH 07/16] x86/split_lock: Handle suspend/hibernate and resume Fenghua Yu
2018-05-27 15:45 ` [RFC PATCH 08/16] x86/split_lock: Set split lock during EFI runtime service Fenghua Yu
2018-05-27 15:45 ` [RFC PATCH 09/16] x86/split_lock: Add CONFIG to control #AC for split lock at boot time Fenghua Yu
2018-05-27 15:45 ` [RFC PATCH 10/16] x86/split_lock: Add a debugfs interface to allow user to enable or disable #AC for split lock during run time Fenghua Yu
2018-05-29 18:43 ` Greg KH
2018-05-27 15:46 ` [RFC PATCH 11/16] x86/split_lock: Add CONFIG to control #AC for split lock from kernel at boot time Fenghua Yu
2018-05-27 15:46 ` [RFC PATCH 12/16] x86/split_lock: Add a debugfs interface to allow user to change how to handle split lock in kernel mode during run time Fenghua Yu
2018-05-27 15:46 ` [RFC PATCH 13/16] x86/split_lock: Add debugfs interface to control user mode behavior Fenghua Yu
2018-05-27 15:46 ` [RFC PATCH 14/16] x86/split_lock: Add debugfs interface to show and control firmware setting for split lock Fenghua Yu
2018-05-27 15:46 ` [RFC PATCH 15/16] x86/split_lock: Add CONFIG and debugfs interface for testing #AC for split lock in kernel mode Fenghua Yu
2018-05-27 15:46 ` [RFC PATCH 16/16] x86/split_lock: Add user space split lock test in selftest Fenghua Yu
2018-05-29 16:39 ` [RFC PATCH 00/16] x86/split_lock: Enable #AC exception for split locked accesses Dave Hansen
2018-05-29 17:25 ` Fenghua Yu
2018-05-29 17:28 ` Dave Hansen
2018-05-29 17:40 ` Fenghua Yu
2018-05-29 16:40 ` Dave Hansen
2018-05-29 17:38 ` Fenghua Yu
2018-06-21 20:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-21 19:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-21 20:18 ` Fenghua Yu
2018-06-21 20:32 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-21 22:00 ` Fenghua Yu
2018-06-21 22:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-21 22:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-21 22:18 ` Dave Hansen
2018-06-21 22:42 ` Fenghua Yu
2018-06-22 8:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-22 9:30 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-21 22:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-21 23:05 ` Fenghua Yu [this message]
2018-06-22 8:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-21 22:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-21 22:43 ` Fenghua Yu
2018-06-21 22:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-23 18:47 ` Fenghua Yu
2018-06-22 9:18 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-22 9:22 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-22 9:25 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-22 9:28 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-21 20:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
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